[Mafia game] The Realm of Phere

I’m leaning towards a few players have an extra vote. –or- maybe they get a (2) vote on whoever they vote for?

If the 3 late votes for ** Mosier ** were a single power – my logic feels they were cast by someone trying to protect the lynch leaders.

If it were a one shot Town power they would not have used it so early (and essentially blindly)*
** not including a mason pairing *
If it were a Scum one shot power why use it so early when the vote could have easily shifted between the top two?

This leads me to believe that ** Gaderene or Astral or Visorslash * or any combination * ** had someone trying to protect them.
And given the Night colour, ** Visorslash ** certainly had a few looking out for him. ( we don’t know when the order for the extra votes was sent in. It may have been when ** visorslash and Gaderene ** were the top two as well.)
Why would the extra 3 be placed on ** Mosier **? who wasn’t in the running?

If one player has the ability, they would/should think another might also?.
Then if protecting ** Gaderene ** why not slam ** Astral or Visorslash** to be sure?
Or any other combination of leaders

Which leaves me with Gaderene/Astral/Visorslash one (or more) appears to have been the target of said vote protection?

If this reads as rambling, I’m composing it in spurts.

I think rambling is pretty much all most of us can do considering the utterly bizarre results. Reading over my own post it’s like I just regurgitated random thoughts all over the page.

(Sorry for that unattractive visual.)

No, because you’re still building in multiple assumptions: (1) that I’m scum; (2) that the person who gave Mosier three extra votes is scum; (3) that I was sure that those three extra votes would push Mosier over me; (4) that I pretended to make a dead-post exhorting town to victory as part of my fiendish plan.

A much simpler explanation is: that I made my dead-post exhorting town to victory because (1) I thought I was dead; and (2) that I’m Town.

You see what I mean?

I have caught multiple scum solely on the basis of their opening post. Ask Weedy. In fact, I caught Weedy herself as scum when she made a “studiedly casual” opening post on day one and I pointed it out immediately.

I do not consider #2 an assumption. Until and unless it is proven otherwise, I believe there is sufficient evidence to consider the described traitor as scum (probably a godfather to boot in some way), and the logic chain linking the traitor to the votes is as solid as can be. #3 is in fact not necessary for such a post; even the possibility that you would survive would be sufficient.

So basically all I am saying is that I will give you no town cred for it, because IF you are scum, it would have been a logical card to play. I mean, why not?

No, it’s not nearly as convoluted as that. As I’ve said, I’ve read (and I think participated in) games where the lynched Scum composed a lovely ave atque vale speech before the revealing color went up, only to say afterward “Bye, bitches! Hail Satan!” And that was when there was none of these freakydeaky goings-on afterwards where they were still alive, so there was no need for them to act coy like that.

In other words, all that needs to be assumed is that 1) you’re scum and were still playing the role of innocent townie until 2) the color went up to reveal your scummitude.

You know you’re going to catch some for this, right?

Are the vote shenanigans Awesome?
Is the Dead Townie Awesome?

can you elaborate?

shrug

People can continue to be paranoid and think I’m scum. I’m not.

I do think Normal Phase is probably town, with the way she’s approached everything.

Cool. Give me all your role information. ^^

You’re going to be so disappointed when I die.

Shenanigans!!!

(Sorry* for the night fluff. I’m at work, so case building is out of the question. Silly jokes are about the best I can do.)

((*I’m not really sorry. Night fluff is fun.))

You are crap at defending yourself Gad, you know that? Your post Lynch posting says nothing about you at all and you should know that.
On the other hand your other behavior speaks townie to me so I won’t re vote for you toMorrow.

Wow. Just wow. From ATPG’s setup, I knew there would be some hidden powers, but this seems pretty ridiculously strong. There were a total of 5 added votes? Even if the Demon Lord 3 shot was a one time deal, the town will have to win by 3 votes during the day to prevent any voting shenanigans.

Still processing…

Heh. Because he’s SO bad at defending himself? :slight_smile:

Okay. PM incoming.

It’s probablistic, Astral. I don’t know why so many people don’t seem to get this. Am I saying I’m definitely right about your role? Obviously not. And, honestly, I think you’ve defended yourself in a relatively townie way. But the reasons for my vote were valid and my thought process was valid, even if I end up being wrong this time. Divorce results from process, and think probabilistically.

Lord Phere takes 80hp damage. ( unknown )
Lord Phere takes 80hp damage. (unknown)

Lightfoot takes 25hp damage. (unknown)

Inner Stickler takes 75hp damage. (protected Visorslash)

Glee takes 13hp damage. (unknown)

Visorslash takes 100hp damage.( magical orb damage even with protection)

ToeJam takes 50hp damage. (unknown)

GuiriEnEspana takes 50hp damage.(unknown)

Red Skeezix takes 60hp damage. (unknown)

**Visorslash,BobArrgh,Inner Stickler ** were all protected ( or attempt was made to protect them)

The players with damage may have attacked Lord Phere-another player-or been protecting a player.

I doubt the Mod would have placed the offers of protection in order of the HP damage so I’m not reading anything into that just now
I made this list for me. And decided to share it in case someone else saw something I’ve missed.

No, but seriously he is doing a terrible job. It’s a lot of subtle stuff that I think is hard to fake about how he reacted to coming back from being away and finding himself in the vote lead that makes me think he is town.

Still, *really *crap at defending himself.

Wait wait wait, isn’t sharing role PMs against the rules? Or is it just posting them in public?

Best ask for clarification before doing any forwarding. I know pizzaguy can’t police PMs, but still…

I didn’t share or quote my role PM in any way; I abided by the rules in the OP (and I copied Pizza on the communication). I merely gave Normal my role information for her to do with as she sees fit.

I would love to hear Inner Stickler’s take on his protecting Visorslash

I agree that my time at POG has made me lazy about composing huge, analytical posts defending myself; I generally hope I can get by on tone and scumhunting and stuff.

I obviously need to do more scumhunting as the game goes on.