Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO

Ah, no-lynch… In a game with over fifty players? Never been for it before, not for it now.

Do we need to announce when we receive our PMs?

I am for the triple lynch tango, if/when we get the opportunity, right Plum/Jean Claude?

I hate no lynch. And I will debate it. But I also understand it.

In a game this large, we need information. Period

It doesn’t matter to us even a little.

So we have 55 players. 14 Scum. Two Factions. And 3rd Parties at play.
Assuming the Scum are equivalent, we likely have two factions of 7 each* (Yes, I realize that this may not be the case, especially if we have varying powers or abilities, and the numbers could be skewed, but lets pick an ‘easy’ set up).
Worst case scenario for us (Town) is if 7 scums on one team need to be greater than or equal to the total population. So 7 scum of one team in a pool of 14 total players would be death. Amusingly assuming we played the worst game, and lynched only townies and no scum died- scum team A could win in a pool of 14 if 7 were scum A, and 6 were scum B, and 1 townie was left.
Still, Town needs to get real antsy when we start getting down to the final 20 players, because mislynches will become a scarier possibility of blowing the game, especially when we’re at 15 players if no scum of one group has been dealt with (this does NOT factor in that each night could lead to multiple kills, so really the game could be really close to over though as soon as we’re around that 14 player mark and a mislynch could blow it for the entire town).

In addition:
55-14= 41 Non-Scum

Now, I’m always a fan of flavor. The Mods have stated that flavor isn’t a big deal. But much like our Mafioso scum up there have surmised- the Mayor died by evisceration, bullets, and Fire. The fire IS interesting… Arsonist roles certainly can be present as a “third-party”

In addition, the number 37 is interesting. 37 is not 41. And 4 “Third party Roles”… seems about fair for a game this size. We could be looking at 14 Scum, 37 Townies, and 4 3rd Party Roles.

For lack of better clues at this time, that’s just my thoughts so far…
-R

I agree with this statement. It means we would need to depend on our Vigs to figure things out (and if there are Vigs, the Vigs would have the responsibility of knowing this could open up multi-lynches during the day).

The problem with the Lynch No One strategy on day 1 is then the Mafia and Scum get FAR MORE information than the Townies do- and while it may be helpful (as early to midgame the Scum want to find the other scum and knock them down in order to have the lead going into the Final 14, it does not help us as a town get more clues on who’s who. The Scum are going to more easily attempt to blend into the town simply by the fact that they will “act townie” for most of the game, the only key is - they will be SmarterTownies as they’ll know at least who IS their own ScumA’s and only be looking for ScumBs.
-R

Yep!

Lunch, scumsauce, flavor…y’all are making me hungry.
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I, too, am against a no lynch. Lynching is our science!

Obligatory math, that I think has to be done, and the “show your work” needs to be on the table (that is posted) by someone, anyone, and since it is cold numbers, can be presented by any role, any faction, any side, any player… As is. Nothing to be gleaned from pure math.

You lose me at the “In Addition” onward. First off, that’s a subtraction problem.

Then you just jump to Arsonist and 37. … Can you go over how you arrived at these again?

What does an Arsonist do, anyway?

SCIENCE! /T Dolby

I’m reading into the flavor, Meeko. It’s the only info we have right now (hence my caveat that they told us NOT to do it. But still. It fits nicely for now).

37 bullets. (I don’t assume that there are 37 townies, but it’s an interesting number choice… not 42… not 36… but 37. I have to wonder if Story was trying to be too clever for his own good there and subtly giving us clues, or if he was just subconsciously picking out a number that he had recently had on his brain. It’s good enough for a Night 0 discussion.

1 Evisceration - Wolves. :mad:
1 Set on Fire - That’s different. :dubious:
Arsonists usually are just 3rd parties that act like Serial killers. It’s been 10+ years since I’ve played, so I don’t know if you guys have different usages/terms for them.
—>For me, I just see it as a kill that is different from the Bullets, and the Werewolves.
-R

:dubious: Are you trying to guess my role before I’ve even gotten it?
It’s Night 0, these are the perfect things to be thinking of before we even start the game.

Unless of course, you just want me to pour you drinks while we waste this night away… Boozy, Get this man your finest from the cellar!

Some multi-lynch math:

Assuming 37 Town and that only town get lynched and NKed, with 3 kills per Night (Mafia, Wolves, Vig)

Day One is single lynch, but after that we could be losing 6+ Townies per Day/Night.
That means by Day 5 we could be down to 14 town which would by LYLO

Oh god. I don’t remember any of the acronyms.

(I looked it up. But now I feel old and out of mafia fighting trim!)

We’re all out of Mafia-killing shape.

I don’t think we can read anything into the number of bullet-holes found in the Mayor’s body; having said that, if there is some significance in that number, hopefully we’ll get some information to allow us to come to understand what it is.

I once met an Arsonist on line at matchdotcom…

Id like a drink too!