For information purposes, here are the voting records of those we are currently considering for lynching:
DAY ONE
Bufftabby - Mennochio [simpleton]
Nanook of the North Shore - Mennochio [simpleton]
MindWanderer - peekercpa [mason]
RoOsh (formerly zuma) - Mennochio [simpleton]
RyJae (formerly Ice Cream Man) - No Lynch/pedescribe*
** ICM changed his vote exactly at 4pm to pedescribe, so it did not count, but it should be noted, I think.*
DAY TWO
Bufftabby - MadTheSwine [Lead Assassin]
Nanook of the North Shore - pedescribe [probable Town]*
MindWanderer - fluiddruid [simpleton]
RoOsh (formerly zuma) - no vote
RyJae (formerly Ice Cream Man) - pedescribe [probable Town]
*
Nanook switched in the last minutes after Mad’s Detective claim, putting Mad and pedescribe in a 5/5 tie.*
DAY THREE
Bufftabby - fluiddruid [simpleton]
Nanook of the North Shore - MindWanderer
MindWanderer - fluiddruid [simpleton]
RoOsh (formerly zuma) - no vote
RyJae (formerly Ice Cream Man) - pedescribe [probable Town]
I’d point out that if you started with me and worked your way down, that you would be starting with a townie, but really, what’s the point right? It’s not like I’m going to admit to being scum when I’m not one.
(Although, that might make an interesting discussion after the game is over. Is there ever a situation where it is correct and pro-town for a vanilla townie to claim to be scum? Maybe with some sort of power that activates on lynch. Chia Bingo Manager type?)
I’m not saying there are PFK in this game. But your actions are similar. You have chosen me to latch onto and attack, just like you did with Blam in Batman. In both games you were investigated as something not town(Scum here, PFK there). The only difference between then and now if there you had a power you claimed, here you do not.
That first sentence isn’t very clear I think. I meant that I can say I’m vanilla town all day, but what difference does it make? You either believe me or you don’t. It’s no better a claim than powerless miller.
That right there is enough for me to say we shouldn’t vote for him toDay. I remember thinking on my re-read that it was the type of vote change that only a townie would make.
Some thoughts on the voting records I posted:
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[li]bufftabby has voted for the eventual lynchee on each day (2 town, 1 scum). IMO, this is a small mark against her, as scum like to hide among groups and bandwagons. A more nuanced examination of her voting would be needed to see how much hiding/jumping on bandwagons was actually going on. On the plus side, she did keep her vote on MadTheSwine on Day 2, and given how close that vote was, and the fact that Mad turned out to be Lead Assassin, it cannot be ignored. [/li]
[li]RyJae/ICM has voted for pedescribe every single day (see my note about Day One’s late switch). What’s up with that? [/li]
[li]There’s not enough information to go on with RoOsh thanks to **zuma’s **non-participation. I’m inclined to think it was just zuma being too busy, and it’s not really fair to blame his replacement. Nevertheless, it leaves us with an info gap, and sadly when you sub in you have to take what your predecessor left, which is this case is “suspicion of lurking.”[/li]
[li]**MindWanderer’s **voting record stinks, but I’m not sure there’s much to be gleaned.[/li][*]As **MindWanderer **has already highlighted, it was **Nanook’s **Day Two swap off Mad and onto pedescribe that forced the tie. Anxious townie mistake or last second scummy try to save the Lead Assassin? You decide [/ul]
Whoa whoa, why me of all the 4 people? Just because I said I was worried? Really that’s all it takes? Bufftaby, I agree with you on.
But I’m just surprised to see MY name up there with hers- Hell, I’ve been trying to play the game due to the fact that my predecessor pretty much wasn’t here for two weeks, and I get more suspicion than the players who’ve been playing for that time?
What’s your case, **NAF? **
Well, your predecesor wasn’t here for two weeks, that’s one. You can’t defend it, but there it is. Sucks to be a sub.
You hopped on to agree about the worrying and are currently defending yourself rather strongly.
You also seem very much like Roosh the scum, less like Roosh the non scum.
Meta as hell on the last point, but what ya gonna do Bats? My guts track record is almost (but sadly not quite) as good as yours, and you bat something like 99% when you go on your gut. My guts says scum. My gut is only about 75% though.
Also, I am 80%+ certain that Nanook is not scum, so that makes it 2 out of three chances you are, put that together with the above, and I think you will agree, you are a good lynch candidate.
Ice Cream Man was absolutley convinced I was scum because I said:
while I was thinking out loud. Part OMGUS, part “he messed up, he must be scum.” And I did mess up. I no longer think out loud for this reason. But I was right about MTS, and the detective says I’m right about you, RyJae, so I guess we’ll see how that turns out. BTW, how accurate is scumdar, on average?
Depends on the person. I feel, on average, my scumdar is fairly good. I usually get into trouble my talking myself out of my gut reaction instead of going with it.
Some people have bad scumdar and need to go by fact and logic. Both plays have their advantages, and it is best if you can put together a mix of both.
So, I’ve been looking into MindWanderer, starting with **Nanook’s **post summarizing his case here: Post 1056
In that post, he references an earlier case by fluiddruid here: post 742
I think we can agree that, knowing **fluid’s **alignment now, that this is an honest case, whether or not it is correct. I recommend everyone take a look at it, even if it is a little out of date.
I noticed a couple of things reviewing Nanook’s case. First, he is correct in stating that MW did not respond to Nanook’s direct questions refuting some of **MW’s **attacks. I note this because **MadTheSwine **did the same thing to me when we were going at it way back on Days 1 & 2. He (Mad) attacked me, I questioned his attacks with specific questions which he never addressed. This refusal to answer specific refutations was one reason I found him scummy. (I do feel he was more blatant about it than MW, but that may be because I was directly involved). Secondly, I didn’t like this from MW:
As far as I can tell, nowhere did Nanook “express glee” at making it happen, practically or otherwise. Nanook points this out in post 749 but this is one of those refutations that MW never responds to.
For now, this is enough for me to: Vote MindWanderer
NAF, you mentioned me as a possible vote. Do you have a case, or is it gut feeling? Inquiring minds want to know.
Re: shadowfacts’ vote analysis, in specific the point about always voting for the eventual lynchee. Point taken, but as I mentioned earlier, this also happened to me in the recruitment game, and I was town as hell. Just throwing that out there.
Well, it’s because I didn’t consider it to be that big a point against you, but you’ve taken it as such.
Delightful.
Yeah, but I’m more believing that Wanders and Bufftabby are the scum than Nanook. So that’s my final 2 to put up there. Then again, I don’t buy what Ryjae’s selling to begin with. But what can ya do?
But feel free to do what you like tonight, NaF.
More so it’s the fact that I’m Town and I know it.
So it’s more the fact that MY name is up there with yours.
And I feel you’re more suspicious than Nanook. As you’ve been oddly here and there with your stuff (see past posts on how I felt you and Blaster were in cahoots, due to the similarities of your actions/suspicions).
Well I don’t particularly either, though I kind of hope he isn’t lying. If he is telling the truth then there were only 3 scum to start off with and town has this in the bag.
If it makes you feel better, I feel strongly that the 5 of us who are not unknown should vote in a block, so unless somoone other than me in that group starts feeling the love for the Roosh lynch, you will probably live till tomorrow.
Right now it looks like MindWanderer is the one on the block. (Him or Ryjae, who I still feel should be the vote if we 5 can not arrive at concensus by early tomorrow morning.)
Actually, if I am not mistaken, the count currently is:
RyJae - 4
Nanook - 3
MindWanderer - 2
I agree with you about the consensus, though. I will switch back to RyJae if at least 4/5 of us cannot agree on one of the unknowns. Blaster, come on back to this game!
Yeah, but I am only counting the 5 of us who are confirmed. Of those, I am open to a MindWanderer lynch, & you voted for him.
BlaM likes Nanook, but I don’t think I will vote for him toDay.
The only people who’s votes I am paying attention to are the 5 confirmeds (me included). Everyone else is just noise. Right now I think the only person who I am willing to vote for who has a vote from one of us is MindWanderer. But I am not 100% sure who peeker and Pede are leaning towards (or who they have voted for, but I think they both have a vote on RyJae. I could be wrong)
I know BlaM’s first choice is Nanook, but I don’t think I will be willing to vote for him toDay.
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