Mafia--T2: Behind the Scenes

[collor=blue]Vote 1: NBC
Vote 2: Pollux
Vote 3: Diggit
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I dont have great reasoning behind my votes which isn’t the greatest idea when there is potential scumitude on the table.

I just reread the Day and I think that NBCs post seem all over the place except for one thing - he agreed with Kold a couple of times. Since I think that NBC is scum him agreeing with Kold who is another claimed vanilla role is enough for me to vote for Pollux. Diggit’s post dont seem that scummy but he is in the wrong pool of people.

Vote 1: NBC
Vote 2: Pollux
Vote 3: Diggit

Fixed color.

I am having second thoughts about my NBC vote since NAF voted for him, and I’m not sure about scum voting for scum.

Vote count ahoy!

CIAS- 1. Santo Rugger 2. Diggit Camera 3. Flyfisheron
NBC- 1. Storyteller 2. CIAS 3. Cookies
Boozahol- 1. Flyfisheron 2. NBC 3. Cookies
Cookies- 1. NBC 2. Boozahol 3. Flyfisheron
NAF- 1. Cookies 2. NBC 3. Flyfisheron
Almost Human- 1. NBC 2. Flyfisheron 3. Cookies
Oredigger- 1. NBC 2. Pollux 3. Diggit
OAOW- 1. NBC 2. Cookies 3. Flyfisheron

No votes: Story, Diggit, Flyfisheron, Mhaye, Pollux, peeker, Rysto, Shadowfax, Total Lost

No incomplete currently.

Totals

NBC (16), Flyfisheron (9), Cookies (8), Diggit (3), Santo Rugger (3), Storyteller (3), Boozahol (2), CIAS (2), Pollux Oil (2)

I was going to comment, but I figure one of us will have been vigged come morning anyway, so why bother.

1. Vote NBC
2. Vote Cookies
3. Vote flyfisheron

NBC’s actions have been the most suspicious to me and I think he’s the most likely to be scum out of the pool of vanilla. (Can we have a pool of chocolate instead next time? Mmmmmm, chocolate.)

Cookies’ vote for Boozahol even when he’s untestedly claimed a confirmable power role is suspicious, but it’s also thin. But it’s better than I have on anybody else at this point.

Flyfisheron’s complete absence seems to be heading towards a modkill anyway. The only role left unclaimed is the Suicidal Vig, so chances are if flyfisheron was here they’d be claiming vanilla anyway, which would put them in the pool of suspects.

Guilty of skimming and not realizing Boozy’s claim. See being slammed at work.

**Unvote #2, Boozy Squid
(Restate)1. Vote NBC
2. Vote NAF (for over-reacting to a busy skim)
3. (Restate) Vote Flyfisheron

Does anyone know how the suicidal vig actually offs himself? Just wondering if Flyfisheron has/had that role and he’s comitting suicide by not posting or voting.

I’m thinking that he’s the suicidal Vig and knows he’s going to die, so he figures there’s no point in continuing to play. Which is really stupid, because even if he’s going to try and suicide there are several power roles out there who can do something about it.

Yeah you’re probably right.

I’d be happy to poke him but I’m not sure if that’d be against the rules - probably is.

**Pedescribe

If a player gets modkilled, do we learn their alignment?**

Btw Cookies I’m leaving my third vote on you unless anything new happens as it’s only the third vote. If it’d been higher I’d have probably moved you down but I doubt I’d have taken you off completely.

Skimming is bad!:stuck_out_tongue:

Wait a second. Hold the phone. I am the ONLY one you want to vote for on that count? I am not the only one to vote for you over it. And I am also a claimed power role.

You’re the only one who bumped me to the top spot, however.

Ok fair enough.

I do think it’s funny that you swapped one power role vote for another though.

And I’m aware that you’re a claimed power role, NAF. A counter-claimed one that lots of people don’t want to lynch because you might be the Jester, which gives me the luxury of being able to vote for who I think is scummiest at this very moment anyway, since it is unlikely that a bandwagon will be built against you until we get down to 12 players.

not to mention that if this were the case, his declaring his role and impending death, even if this were unpreventable, would still give us information to use today.

Having just finished a reread, it will be a good time to place a vote.

Firstly, my pool of suspects will (for the time being) be confined to the players who claimed vanilla, the rival claimants for the Paranoid Doc role and Flyfisheron.

I don’'t propose to vote for either NAF or Oredigger Today because of the possibility that the scum claimant is the Jester. That means lynching either Flyfisheron or lynching into the claimed vanilla pool.

Flyfisheron’s total inactivity makes him a major candidate for a Modkill. This could cause problems if we do not learn the alignment and roles of modkills. I’ve asked Pedescribe what the policy is; if he says we do not learn the alignment or role, I feel we should lynch Flyfisheron Today so we do get this information. Until we get a reply to the question, however, I am going to proceed on the basis that we learn the alignment and role of modkilled players, and not advocate a lynch of our missing player.

So who am I suspicious of?

I assume it is common ground among us that one of NAF or Oredigger is a scum. Lynching one now would either remove one scum, or leave the survivor to the tender mercies of the Vig. The risk there is that we lynch the Jester, causing one of us to convert and lose their powers. That player could claim that they were affected by the induced madness of being in close proximity to me to explain the power loss; an ongoing possible problem.

The downside of lynching the Jester is quite considerable, and I don’t think I want to risk it. So I will not be voting for NAF or Oredigger Today.

It should come as no surprise that I am suspicious of NaturalBornChap. After all, he was my first choice Yesterday, and he has continued his suspicious behaviour Today.

Let’s start my analysis of Today with post [post=10205539]657[/post]. What caught my eye here was that NBC tried to derail the mass claim by saying “This all picked up steam right now when we have precious little time to make any other choices.” Consider that at this point the Day was less than half over; there were approx 63 hours until Dusk. That’s not “precious little time.”

Then, in post [post=10206056]667[/post] NBC alleges that Storyteller was the first player to try and suggest that holding up the mass-claim process was scummy (in post [post=10205236]651[/post]). This does not look right, given that in the same post, Storyteller suggested that if TotalLost had information that suggested the mass claim was bad for the Town she should share it.

Then, in post [post=10210118]807[/post], NBC advocates lynching one of the Paranoid Doc claimants, ignoring the risk that we might lynch the Jester.

Somewhere in the middle of this, I had a WIFOM moment. NBC is tilting at windmills, and almost appears as if he’s trying to raise the suspicions of one of the game’s better analysts. I asked myself if that was just what he was doing, trying to get lynched because he is the Jester.

I went off looking for other candidates, and (to be honest) have not many good traces. The best appears to be the strange vote by DarkCookies on first Squiddio and then NAF; the trouble is that this is so weak compared to NBC that I struggle to see whether this could bear the weight of a full vote.

I think I’m just going to have to bite the bullet and vote my suspicion, putting NBC at the top of the list. At this point, with nothing else to go on, I’m going to put DarkCookies second, and place a filler vote for Flyfisheron to make it all count.

Vote :
1. NaturalBornChap
2. DarkCookies
3. Flyfisheron

My other votes from Yesterday were Peekercpa and Zsofia; the former is currently not on my suspect list by virtue of having claimed a power role and not been faced with a counterclaim, and Zsofia’s innocence has been conclusively shown.

Do you want to lynch the Jester?

I don’t get this vote. You really think NAF is the scummiest player here because he ‘overreacted’ to a vote for an uncountered pro-Town claimant? This doesn’t smell right to me. Not because you skimmed and made a mistake in voting: I do that all the time. But your reaction isn’t the mea culpa that’s appropriate, but instead going on the attack.
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Vote Reorder:

  1. Cookies
  2. Flyfisheron
  3. NBC**

Posting quick, sorry…

I think it’s silly to lynch NAF or Ore, and if I have time I will vote for whomever has done so.
Oredigger’s mass claim idea makes sense for a Jester, but, OTOH, he’s quite fond of the idea in general.

CatInA, give me a break, man. :stuck_out_tongue:

Votes coming up (hopefully).

I mentioned early in the Day that I was going to try analysis of the Day 1 vote. I forgot to actually do it, so I’ll do it now that we have extra info from the mass claim.

Confirmed Pro-Town(Dead)
Blaster Master (T-800)
sachertorte
Zsofia

Confirmed Scum(Dead)
Thing Fish (SA T-1000)

Uncountered Power Role
Rysto (Bus Driver)
One and Only Wanderers (Commuter)
Almost Human (Politician)
Boozahol Squid, PI(John Connor)
Total Lost (Doctor)
peekercpa (Roleblocker)
mhaye (Sarah Connor)

Paranoid Doc Claimants
Oredigger77
NAF

Unclaimed
Flyfisheron

Vanilla Claimants
storyteller0910
Santo Rugger
Diggit
Cookies
NBC
Shadow Facts
CatinaSuit
Pollux Oil
Dusk 1 Vote Count
Zsofia: 1. NBC, 2. peeker, 3. Thing Fish
Total Lost: 1. Zsofia, 2. peeker 3. DiggitCamera
Almost Human: 1. DiggitCamera, 2. Flyfisheron, 3. Total Lost
Rysto: 1. Zsofia, 2. NBC, 3. CatInASuit
Sach: 1. NAF, 2. Mhaye, 3. Squidio
Squidio: 1. Santo Rugger, 2. NAF, 3. CatInASuit
Mhaye: 1. NBC, 2. peeker, 3. Zsofia
Blaster Master: 1. peeker, 2. Digger 3. Mhaye
peeker: 1. Sach, 2. Rysto, 3. Storyteller

Thing Fish: 1. Zsofia, 2. Santo Rugger, 3. NBC
CatInASuit: 1. Santo Rugger, 2. Zsofia, 3. peeker
Storyteller: 1. NBC, 2. NAF, 3. peeker
Cookies: 1. Zsofia, 2. peeker, 3. Santo Rugger
Diggit Camera: 1. Almost Human, 2. NBC, 3. CatInASuit
NAF: 1. Sach, 2. Zsofia, 3. Almost Human
Santo Rugger: 1. DiggitCamera, 2. ShadowFacts, 3. Zsofia
NBC: 1. Zsofia, 2. Storyteller, 3. peeker
Digger: 1. NBC, 2. Flyfisheron, 3. Squidio
Shadow Facts: 1. Zsofia, 2. Almost Human, 3. peeker
Koldy: 1. Sach, 2. Koldy, 3. Zsofia

For now, my votes will be:

1. Cookies
2. Shadow Facts
3. Rysto

Cookies for placing her #1 vote on NAF, which she says is because she’s voting for who is scummiest but she admits that she knows that NAF bandwagon is going nowhere. Feels like a player who’s trying not be to accountable for her votes.

Shadow for his really bizarre PIS accusation against Almost Human Day 1

Myself as a placeholder.

In the meantime, I have a question for Squidio: When you use your power to ask a player a question, can they lie? If you don’t know the answer ask pedescribe, please.