The other thought is wouldn’t the Vig have a decent handle on the size of the mafia too? Though of course that would be an outing as well. Ah well, at this stage the size isn’t too terribly much of an issue.
Ah. I tried Location: Los Angeles, but that matched NAF, and I got fed up.
Hawkeye - that makes sense.
The vig would know how many attempted recruitments there were, but not their success rate. We do need to be very careful about outing the Vig though. If there is one role we cannot afford to let being a capo, it’s that.
Huh?
Well you don’t actually expect to read all the rules do you. :smack:
Sigh, it looks like my memory failed me.
People, look at my history of Mafia:
M2: one of those involved in the Day Two clusterfuck. I claimed. I was Town.
Pirates: quickly forced to role claim. I was Town.
Cult of Sekham: again quickly forced to role claim. I was Town.
Bladerunner: continually hounded until, yes, I was forced to claim. I was Town.
Face it, my play style seems to trigger the scumdar of a lot of players. Even when I am Town. In fact, the game (You Solve It) that I played the most Townie, I was the final Scum. See the pattern?
And here we are in this game. You’re focusing on a turn of phrase. Has this ever worked for the Town? It’s certainly helped the Scum, given that it’s an excellent distraction. We’re either going to lynch me, and see that I am not scum. Or we don’t, but my typical gameplay will throw off enough scumtells to keep the heat on me a la brewha.
So, I’m going to put a stop to this. I’m a Priest. I can be killed, but not recruited. Either trust me alive or trust me dead. Your choice.
Ouch. So either:
A) You’re lying, and we’re well off lynching you, or;
B) You’re telling the truth, and the scum are well off killing you.
I hope you’ve made out your will. :eek:
A role that there may be more than one of and that is incorruptible. How convenient. Plus, you left out a third option. We can keep you alive and not trust you. That is what we have cops and a detective for.
Can we not trust him dead, just for fun?
What do you mean?
Okay, well, whatever. I looked it up to satisfy my own curiosity, but since I thought the nitpick was silly to begin with maybe I was easily satisfied. (Obviously the opposite is true in your case.) My own line of thinking was that it’s more instinctive to talk of the Vig as male and the Witch as female. But I freely admit that scum tells are slim at this point in the game, so if that’s the one people want to latch onto, then I suppose it’s better than nothing.
Oh my, this is a rather pre-mature claim, isn’t it? Sadly, I was prepared to go on an explanation of why stuff, particularly something as silly as a pronoun, is probably a null tell. But then in this post, you defend yourself with your previous play style and then make a claim of what scum would probably claim. I find this very suspicious.
And to clarify, here’s why claiming Priest would be a good scum claim: If we buy it, we “know” you’re not going to be recruited, so we’d trust you the rest of the game. If we question it, and let you live, you can easily explain your survival by saying “well, the scum need to recruit, they know I’m not recruitable, so they recruited someone else.”
So, let’s examine the possibilities:
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You’re town. Why did you panic so quickly and claim early? We still have several days before the Day is over. You have enough experience to know better than this, so I’m befuddled by this turn of events. If you’re town, you’re pretty much useless to us at this point, because the scum won’t try to recruit you, otherwise, they’ll leave you alive and wait for us to lynch you ourselves.
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You’re scum. You got caught, so you want to make a claim that will either be believed and let you live for a while OR will distract the discussion and keep it on you so that the Boss can live through the Day and recruit someone else Tonight. It’s hard to say whether you’re original scum or a recruit, but either way, a bird in the hand.
So, here’s a prossible solution. Let’s evaluate and get Pleo to substantiate his claim. If he can’t, we can let the Vig target him, knowing he’d have a not-too-unreasonable chance of hitting scum AND we’d have some definite information about how the Night went. Further, it would still allow Pleo, if he’s actually pro-town, to at least use his prayer ability Tonight.
PLEO!! You couldn’t have waited until a little closer to the end of the Day to say something? :smack: Even if your claim is true, there was a lot to be said for the discussion, at least for the moment.
I claimed now because I’m tired of this rut that seems to happen every game.
I don’t have any way to prove my claim in game. Meta-gamely, I pointed out my playing history. I always get this. I don’t take it personally, but it’s very counterproductive to my side. So I’m trying to short-circuit it.
It’s Day 2 and we have basically nothing to go on at this point. If you really think I’m scum, go ahead vote for me. The Day won’t end early, and a Priest isn’t that valuable anyway. It’s a worthy risk.
But let’s not waste the Day talking about me, please? Vote for me or not, but then talk about someone else.
My mother didn’t bring me up to hang holy men. Back to plan one.
unvote: Pleo
revote: Menocchio
I don’t like this. No sir, not one bit.
It’s way too early (and the vote tally too close) to role claim, and the priest is conveniently unverifiable. Also, appealing to performance and record in previous games doesn’t please me at all.
I agree with Blaster Master though. We vote for someone else. Pleo, if actually a priest, uses his prayer tonight, at his discretion. The Vig, assuming it (ha!) feels Pleo is as scummy as I do can do its thing.
I’m letting my vote stand for the moment, since I’m the runner up in the votes right now, and I know I’m not scum. Let me think on it, and if I can find another target I’ll switch.
That sounds like a scum trying to divert focus from themself. If we start talking about someone else, aren’t we more likely to switch our votes? It also pings to me where you say “go ahead and vote for me”. It sounds like a WIFOM situation that’s supposed to blow out my circuits. I wouldn’t think that a true Town power role would claim this early in the Day, especially when Menocchio is also in the running to be lynched. I’m a newb; I could be wrong. But that’s my analysis, FWIW.
I have to say, I think the pronoun thing was blown a bit out of proportion. We don’t have any real scum tells so it got pounced on.
I’m a little bit suspicious about the Priest claim, it just seems a bit too convenient. But not enough for me to string him for. Not yet anyway.
Too convenient. I think I’m sticking with Pleo as my guess. The automatic role claim when we’re nowhere near a lynch consensus isn’t a good sign. I’m not even sure I see the case for Menocchio. Despite the fact that he has an Italian name. :eek:
FTR, the historical Menocchio (aka Domenico Scandella) was an innocent miller that was ultimately burned at the stake by the Inquisition for his heterodox religious beliefs.
Which doesn’t bode well for my chances at this game, come to think of it…