oh and unvote hal vote dot
Just so everyone knows where my suspicion lies currently. There is a good chance I am wrong, and like I said I will happily self hammer if it looks like there is going to be a tie between me and anyone else.
NAF etc: Ties do not equal no-lynch. Ties are determined randomly. No-lynch must be voted as no lynch.
I am also suspicious as hell of Fruedian Slit, I haven’t liked her play all game, and it reminds me a lot of her play in You-Slove-It.
(Yes, I *will * keep posting as I keep thinking of things to add, why do you ask?)
I guess I see what Santo was saying–I was up at 2AM and really grouchy, so I got snarky. Sorry, I’m not one to do that very often, and it usually grates on me when people do it in game.
So anyway, glad to see my head is a little safer, but I’m really unconvinced on NAF. Maybe I’m not reading closely enough, but he seems helpful and pro-town to me. Could be a screen, but I’m loath to lynch someone who is contributing so much. I guess I could shift my vote from OCS to some other random person, because I have NO honest leads on anyone, but hey–it would just mean that dotchan or someone goes up and someone asks, “why him/her?” I mean, why anyone? Like I said, may as well be me (well, not from my point of view, but I’m the only one who knows my true alliance), I understand that. It may as well be anyone. I don’t want to roleclaim, and I have no info to dump, so do as you will.
Right now, I’m leaning towards either Millit the Frail, NAF1138 or Dotchan.
Millit because of [post=9564410]916[/post]; Santo Rugger is right, it’s reminiscent of M2D2 (which I lurked through the entirety of).
NAF because if he’s sincere in his proposal (made in [post=9562493]837[/post] that we need to thin the ranks, and should eliminate a list of about 10 experienced players, then he shouldn’t mind being first, and if he’s not sincere then he’s a lying scumbag who deserves to be hung.
Dotchan for Bufftabby’s reasons enumerated in [post=9564713]927[/post]
On the subject of tying a lynch vote, I believe that may be impossible. I’m hunting for the post that says so now.
The [post=9497630]main rules[/post] say ties will be broken “by random chance.” So no “no lynch by tying” is possible.
Really? Huh. Ok then, I misrememberd the rules and didn’t bother to check. Bad on me.
The Vig can’t be recruited.
Again, really? I thought that was one of the roles open to capoing. Well the vig will know better than I can. In that case, I amend my statment to, VIG I think you outted yourself accidentally and that you should claim.
I’d be more than happy to vote for anyone on my list - I just picked OneCentStamp because I’d voted for him before, as I admitted when I voted. So, yes, it is quasi-random. Although if we were offing based purely on lurking itself I’d vote for dotchan.
Someone upthread mentioned that the withholding of information is bad, but it isn’t always. See sachertorte’s Coroner role in Conspiracy. His withholding for information did help win the game for town. If you are going to trust a role-claim, you should trust them all the way. If not, lynch 'em. Half-hearted trust just makes for paranoia and a waste of time in the end.
I just noticed I mostly missed a whole page. The above is not true, the role claims are not a bad thing. See the pirates game off board. Large numbers of role claims overload the scum and narrow the pool for them to hide in. This is not a bad thing.
MHaye, good point. The “random chance” rule doesn’t specify that “no-lynch” is not a random option. I should have said it doesn’t necessarily mean no-lynch. maybe fluiddruid could clarify at some point what random chance includes? (Or not, I’m cool with that too. I know things like that can be intentionally worded that way)
See, this is what I get when I miss a page. Sinj claimed mason, I REALLY think we need the rest of the masons to claim. If Sinj is recruited they will all be known to the scum anyway. Better that all are out than none.
Sure, I thought the day was over at 11 Eastern, and I posted that at 9 Mountain, so I thought the Day was already over. Anyway…
**NAF - **If he’s not a recruited Priest, I really, really hope the Bishop left a damn good clue in his very next post so we can study it when he dies.
dotchan - She’s getting voted for because she was absent for the few days around the end of the game she’s modding. Can anybody here think of anybody else who wasn’t, either? (Hint: You’re reading his post right now.)
OnceCent - The charge against him was basically started by HazelNut, IIRC, and follows the same, exact reasoning I called out Millit for. In other words, “Let’s attack somebody who hasn’t claimed or gotten any heat yet.” In other other words, it started with bullshit reasoning, and only picked up steam from there.
Although, I must say, BlaM, you’re right that a NoLynch is not benificial, but I don’t like any of the cases against the front runners at all.
Yeah, I lurked through M2 also. What a mess. OK, I see your point. I really don’t want anyone else to roleclaim–I’m actually really dismayed to see that we’ve brought so many power roles out of the fabric so soon. Don’t know what else to say about that. I made that statement because I think we ought to trust the claims and resist lynching them at this point.
I still have trouble with the town lynching NAF. I’m breaking this tie.
**Unvote OneCentStamp
Vote dotchan**
Absolutely not! Even if the vig accidentally outed themselves, there’s no guarantee that scum picked up on it. And since we find out the name of a random scum if they attempt to recruit the vig, the vig should keep good and well quiet for now.
I missed the Pirate game (I was in Brazil!), but, this isn’t the Pirate game, and the Pirate game didn’t involve the chance of a recruitment every single Night.
I completely agree.
Vigs call I guess. But I think that they should know that I picked up on it, and if I did, I am guessing the scum did too.
dotchan (5) bufftabby, Hal Briston, Hawkeyeop, NAF1138, Millit the Frail
NAF1138 (4) - Blaster Master, sinjin, OneCentStamp, Hotflungwok, (Santo Rugger), (Hockey Monkey)
OneCentStamp (3) HazelNutCoffee, (Millit the Frail), chrisk, Pleonast
Menocchio (2) - dotchan, (Drain Bead), (chrisk), (Koldanar)
Hawkeyeop (1) - Menocchio*
Koldanar (1) Drain Bead
Hal Briston (1) - (Millit the Frail), (NAF1138), (bufftabby), Diomedes, (sinjin), (Menocchio)
Millit the Frail (0) - (Santo Rugger), (Hawkeyeop)
sinjin (0) - (Hal Briston), (Pleonast), (Hawkeyeop)
Drain Bead [sub for Idle Thoughts] (0) - (Pleonast), (Menocchio), (Koldanar)
Diomedes (0) - (Hal Briston)
Pleonast (0) - (Darth Sensitive)
hotflungwok (0) - (Blaster Master)
Yet to cast a vote on Day 3:
MHaye
Freudian Slit
No current vote:
Darth Sensitive
Koldanar
Hockey Monkey
Santo Rugger
Edited to state: No, no lynch won’t be a choice of random chance. No lynch has to win the vote.
According to post [post=9499543]37[/post], if No Lynch and a player tie for the lynch lead, the player is lynched. If No Lynch cannot be the result in that situation, I doubt very much whether it is going to be an allowable result if two players tie. So I’ve been going on the assumption that in the event of a tie, one of the players with the highest vote will be randomly chosen to lynch.