Ahem. Back to business.
Like Menocchio, I suspect this was a vig kill. So the pool of scum likely increased, unless of course a recruitment was blocked. At least we’ll have a better chance of lynching scum this time.
I think we should figure out if we still have a vig before any claiming occurs.
Why do we have to do one and then the other? Multiple things can go on at once.
I’ll second this. We need to find the boss and fast.
Why? If we still have a vig (which I highly doubt), then he too will benefit from a Mason-less kill pool. If not, then at least we get one for today’s lynch.
Actually, scratch that. Why do we need to figure out if we have a vig at all? Assume worst case senario, the mafia recruited and there are now 4 of them, and the vig is no more.
Also, fluid does the vig lose his knowing the name of a mafia member power if he turns into a priest? I am guessing yes, but would like to know for sure.
If the answer to the above question is yes, the former vig should claim too. We have no benefit from him not claiming anymore and he becomes a 100% confirmed townie. Something that is more valuable than any power role in the game.
Is there any other reason besides the vig turning priest from attempting to kill a priest that I’m not understanding or recalling?
I investigated Koldanar, who is Town.
I also managed to escape recruitment.
The entire point of role claiming was to lessen the pool for the vig. We don’t need to lessen the pool for us. People can just role claim before we would lynch them.
Yes. All role changes are total. Same if you become Consigliere - you lose your original powers. So do Capos, though they do gain powers that may be similar to their original power.
A Priested Vig is just a Priest. Any Priested player gets a prayer of their own.
I’ll second that too. As a priest, he’s unrecruitable so the mob can’t turn his trustedness against us. As a former vig, he’s verifiable… With extreme prejudice.
My only concern is that we’re running out of recruitment baffles. But at this point, I think finding the boss is a higher priority.
Ok, but that is stupid (sorry Hawk many of your ideas have been good, but you aren’t thinking this one through) and it’s a good way to get a bad rush lynch at the end of the Day. We want to avoid people claiming right before a lynch, and leverage the power of the mason group toDay early so we have a smaller pool of potential candidates for boss.
I’m going to come right out and say hey…I’m the former vig, now priest. 100% town here, and more importantly, I DID NOT KILL the first night. We have a max of 3 mafia out there.
Claims:
*Pleonast - Priest, Day 2
*Hal - Priest (Bishop-ordained), Day 3
*Drain Bead - Detective, at least one successful investigation, Day 3
*Mennochio - Doctor, Day 3
Other:
*hotflungwok investigated as Town by Drain Bead
Did I miss anything?
Mennochio, I’m guessing that Drain Bead held back her results (assuming she’s telling the truth) because she got a power role back on her investigation and she doesn’t want to risk outing said power role.
I don’t think the vig should claim unless he/she was the one who took a swing at chrisk and fluiddrid confirms that the Vig loses all of his/her Vig powers upon conversion to Priesthood.
The Masons should definitely claim, if not toDay, then toMorrow at the latest. And maybe the Priest(s) too, but I’m not so sure about that one.
*Koldanar - Priest (former Vig), Day 4
At a certain point we can just start lynching the unconfirmed and we will start taking out the scum really quickly.
I’ll buy that.
So if we buy all the claims so far we’ve got
Millit the Frail
NAF1138
Hockey Monkey
bufftabby
USCDiver [sub for Diomedes]
MHaye
Santo Rugger
Blaster Master
Hawkeyeop
HazelNutCoffee
Darth Sensitive
OneCentStamp
dotchan [sub for Freudian Slit after dying on Day 3]
sinjin
Our boss is in there.
(didn’t sinjin claim Mason, or am I misremembering?)
First of all, I’m inclined to agree with the initial reaction that it was the Vig who killed Chrisk. The only benefit I can see for scum to kill and pick his is that they’d be pretty sure it wouldn’t be blocked, but considering that the scum, even if all of their recruits had been successful, were still hurting in numbers, I just can’t imagine they’d take that risk, especially knowing that the Doctor was likely protecting either himself or the outted detective last Night.
I also agree with the reasoning that, if Chrisk was his target, the Vig can claim and convince us with fairly decent certainty. If it wasn’t the Vig who did that, and someone claims, the Vig knows he’s scum and can kill him tonight. If it was the Vig, but someone else claims, he can counter-claim, and we have a nifty trade-off for a scum. If no one counter-claims, he’s either telling the truth, or the new Priestly-Vig isn’t paying much attention. Finally, considering that I’m also of the mind that the Vig outted himself inadvertantly yesterday, staying silent only hurts the town, because the scum probably picked it up, if NAF (I think) and I did.
On Preview: I see he’s already claimed… So, I’m going to believe it barring a counter-claim.
There should be a happy medium in there somewhere. People who have votes on them don’t need to wait until the last minute to claim. However, I don’t think they need to claim right now either. Maybe once a power role has a couple votes on him he should claim? The pool of people we will potentially lynch won’t include mason regardless as to when they claim.
Yes, sinjin did claim mason.