So, if it was me that you both thought was Vig, what did I do to out that?
This reminds me of a point I wanted to make after last Night. We have WAY too many people waiting WAY too long to get their votes in yesterday. I think we’d stand a much better chance of not having what essentially boils down to a random lynch if we get people’s suspicions out there sooner. Lynching people last minute, without giving them a chance to claim and defend themselves is very bad for the town. What if dotchan [Ver. 1] had been a priest, police chief, or some other role that would have made you reconsider your vote if she’d had the opportunity to claim?
So, if you’re leaning a certain way, can you try to just put a vote out there, and hopefully with at least a day or two before Nightfall, so we have a chance to evaluate the leaders, rather than having a bandwagon → claim → unvote → repeat cylce going?
As such, I’m going to vote now. I’m still most suspicious of NAF for the very same reasons I was yesterday. The only intervening piece being his “final defense” and his surprise at surviving the Day and Night. Speaking of which, if NAF isn’t scum, why should he be surprised at surviving the Night? General strategy of scum says to leave those under suspicion alive, so making a point of being surprised by being alive seems… odd at best.
Vote NAF1138
BlaM, why is that surprising? If he felt like he was onto something, and the scum were going to kill him at Night? Or he thought he had an idea of who the vig was, and it was a person suspicious of him?
I’m not precisely arguing with you, I just don’t quite see your logic, and I would like to.
I was at least 70% certain that I was going to get vigged after riding the dotchan train to lynchtown. Also, I almost never survive to this point in the game anymore.
You are barking up the wrong tree BlaM, but you would expect me to say that.
Who is your #2?
Here, I agree. I don’t see him at the end as particularly scummy, but rather someone with no valid roleclaim to prevent a lynch / kill, he was fair game. Though if he believed scum recruited day 1, they may have been due a kill. Either way, I don’t get the same read from his end of Day activities, nor his surprise toDay.
Ugh, this is beyond illogical. Come on guys. ROLE CLAIMS MEAN NOTHING! Let’s say, for example, that Player A is the Boss. He recruits Player B, who is, say, a Detective. Player A then claims Detective, and allows player B to get lynched, revealing them as scum. This theory is worthless if we don’t know the player’s original role when they die, though. But if we don’t, it sure buys the Boss a LOT of time!
Never mind, “at death, all truths are revealed”. That’d be a stupid move for the Boss to make.
Ok, as I said at dusk, this needs revisiting:
Ok, it wasn’t the best day ever. Several power roles were forced to reveal – not good, but not the end of the world. What really struck a chord with me was that this was posted after we lynched Dotchan, but before she was revealed to be town – almost as of Darth Sensitive knew she was going to come up town, and wanted to make sure to get some good townie commiserating going.
I mean, yesterDay wasn’t a good day, but it would’ve gotten a whole helluvalot better if Dot had been reveled to be scum, no?
My guess is that DS is scum who tipped his hat a bit too soon on that one.
Vote Darth Sensitive
ok, so people who haven’t claimed:
Millit
Hockey
Bufftabby
USC
MHaye
Santo
BlaM
Hawk
HNC
hotflungwok
Darth S
OCS
Dot
NAF
Of that list 7 people were on my top early recruit list.
HM
MHaye
BlaM
Santo
HNC
Dot (Fruidian)
NAF
As of yesterDay the following people were on my own personal, probably not recruited list:
BlaM
Hawk
Santo
So I will take them out of the running for the time being. (Just looking for one of the two scum we had yesterDay)
Of the most likely to be recurited list
HNC and Hockey have been pinging my scumdar most. Just on a gut level.
Of the other list Millit and Darth S have been pinging me the hardest. Again, just on a gut level… so…
I will vote Millit as a swing for picking up the boss.
Crap, I forgot about Darths Night post.
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unvote Millit **
** voteDarth Sensitive**
I’m open to him coming back and explaining it, but I agree that that seemed odd and premature. I also don’t want to repeat my mistake of the last two days, that of voting late.
I vote Darth Sensitive.
I’m also open to the idea, briefly discussed upthread, of a mass role claim today. I just feel as if the mafia’s advantage is growing greater each day, or has so far.
I thought that he was referring to the fact that we did that whole bandwagon/roleclaim/bandwagon thing. Still, my instincts say at least a FoS Darth Sensitive would be warranted.
Even if the rest of the Masons don’t claim toDay, do you guys think it would be to Town’s advantage for sinjin to tell us at least how many there are? Scum have tried to fakeclaim Mason in both the Sekham and the Conspiracy games…
Yeah, Hal’s right. I thought exactly the same thing at the time. Vote Darth Sensitive.
Well the mafia’s advantage has grown each day. that is how this game works. The question is how would a mass claim help that.
I’m leaning towards voting Hazel. Let me see if I can come with a good reason.
I think this is a good idea.
You know, I didn’t even notice the timing difference between the Darth post and the reveal. Gonna go get my scumdar repaired right now. I’ll say strong strong FOS on Darth with intent to vote. I want to hear something from the accused first.
Oh, and I’m curious, while we’re discussing role claims, is there any advantage to the vanilla folks claiming, or is it just the power roles that anyone cares about claiming anyway?
My thought was that there would be enough verifiable claims to winnow out the scum. Maybe I’m wrong.
You were not the one who I’d thought had outted himself. FWIW, I’d thought the Vig was hotflungwok. I’ll have to go back and see if those reads mean something different.
On Preview: I see I missed a flurry of voting during the meeting… oh boy.
ditto.