I suspected as much. 
I’ve already said all I can about my role. Nothing more for me to add.
Holy crap. The Day’s barely started, and everything’s a mess.
People, either believe a power Role or don’t. Stop bugging them to “prove” themselves by revealing information that they believe is better kept hidden. If you think it’s scummy, then vote for them. If you think they’re Town, then trust that they’re working for Town and stop telling them what to do.
For the moment, I’m inclined to believe Drain Bead and not Blaster Master, mostly because BlaM was already on my “suspicions” list. I don’t think he’s the Boss though. I have a theory, but I don’t have time to finish putting together a case until tomorrow, so I’ll post that and my vote then.
:: grumbles about missing Search function ::
No, you haven’t. Yes, there is.
The one thing I know is that you’re not a priest. What are you?
I don’t think it is necessary for Pleo to answer that question.
Anything you can say here is post hoc reasoning. If he says “Yes, I’m a Priest” you can say “See, I knew that.” If he goes “No, I’m really a Beat Cop / Bishop / Mason, and I lied to keep myself from getting recruited” you can say “See, I knew that.” All that really says is that you knew he was pro-town and that’s why you didn’t vote for him.
And for that matter, how do I know you didn’t investigate ME on that Night? Any reason you might not have revealed Pleonast’s role as town could easily have applied to my role. So you saying you didn’t say anything about my role before, when you didn’t say anything about Pleonast before, doesn’t hold water.
I’ll be more than happy to reveal my role when the time comes, but I do not think it’s in our best interest to lynch you Today, even though I’m sure that you’re scum. These desperate accusations on your part and my refuting them are a massive distraction for the town. You’re deliberately trying to pull discussion AWAY from the Boss.
I am really not liking the turn of toDay’s discussion. Pleonast is either town that’s been screwed over by a series of circumstances or very lucky scum at this point. WHY were people hounding Drain Bead to reveal this to “confirm” her towniness? It doesn’t confirm jackshit. It’s only screwed everything up.
Goddamn it.
My sentiments exactly. We really can’t believe any investigation results until Drain dies and shows up town… if that doesn’t happen… well, basically everything is screwed up, like you say.
Here’s the thing. If he hasn’t done it by the end of the night, I’m doing it for him, and leaving the town to decide what to do with that info. I know I haven’t been recruited yet, and I even volunteer myself to die toDay to prove that. If my continued existence becomes too much of a distraction, by all means kill me now, while everything I say can still be shown to be 100% true upon my death.
Right now I’m a valuable asset. I don’t know how valuable I will continue to be past this point. Kill me now, then you can see.
Seriously, can role fishing get any more blatant than this? If you DID know he wasn’t a Priest, you’ve just defeated the entire purpose of him lying to the town about the role. If he’s the Bishop, for instance, he would have not had a choice but to say Priest because otherwise he could have been easily Capo’d. Same for if he’d said he was a Beat Cop. In either case, if he’d said his actual role, he’d have been right back to zero trust the next day because he easily could have been recruited or Capo’d, which would have been advantageous to scum anyway.
FWIW, I’m sure a number of us had suspicions about whether he was potentially another power role or not, but the point of keeping it secret is so that scum can’t be sure and will be less likely to risk it. But even if you nail it on the head without any further help from him, it still doesn’t prove you weren’t recruited either of the last two Nights.
Pleo, I can’t think of a single reason why it would be in the town’s interest for you to answer this. It looks like a desperate scum to me
I think this may actually be in the town’s best interest at this point.
Kill me, and we’ll find out I wasn’t. And you are. And Pleo may very well be, or not be, but I don’t know for sure and I want to find out before I’m dead or converted.
Unvote Blaster Master
Vote Drain Bead
Even if we DO lynch you, you still gain the Boss another Day to recruit. You absolutely should be lynched to prove that you’re the lying scum that you are, but Today is NOT the Day to do that. Seriously, this pseudo-martyr move doesn’t prove anything.
We lynch you Today, you show up as scum, scum have a good chance at another recruit Tonight, and we’re pretty much back to where we are right now, minus one pro-town player.
Minus two pro-town players counting the recruit, but plus a ton of info that was completely verified upon my death.
For the love of God, you CAN’T be serious. Hey everyone, let’s waste a Day lynching scum, giving the Boss one more Day to recruit freely. The only reason you’d come out and lie in the first place with a desperate move like this is if the Boss is already under a lot of suspicion.
Lynching you or me is counter-productive Today.
Nice try… they’d recruit and likely replace you. And since you’re already scum, and we have no way of knowing when you were recruited, all of this “verified” information will be all but useless when you show up as scum.
If this Town as a whole thinks that lynching the Boss is the very top priority and are going to hold off lynching any KNOWN scum until the Boss is lynched, then we are screwed. I understand the premise behind the strategy, but just how long do you all propose we continue to let the scum add to their ranks without actively lynching someone we know to be scum?
Honestly, I’d rather we lynch you, if we’re looking to semi-confirm me. It’s better to lynch scum than town, after all. But that only lasts for a Day. I could very well be recruited toNight. So far I’d say that our protective roles have done a fabulous job, but that can’t last forever. I’m either going to be killed or recruited VERY soon. Might as well get everything out on the table before I go, one way or the other.
Implicating you if you were not scum would be a classically stupid flame-out move if I were scum, especially so if I were the Boss, as I’d be signing my own death warrant the next Day. It would make more sense if we were BOTH scum, but either way it would mean dead scum if you died today. If I died toDay, we’d be down two townies by Dawn tomorrow, and if you died toDay, we’d be down one. But if the town isn’t going to believe me alive, they’ll sure as hell believe me dead.
Look at it this way. Scum could practically daily come out and force a dichotomy like the one that Drain Bead is pulling right now. If we lynch her, they have a high probability of replacing her with someone else; if we lynch me then her, they get TWO chances to recruit meaning they’re down one scum, but up an expected number greater than one. Consider that there’s probably a 50% chance we’ll get either right, the scum end up ahead by simply attempting recruits until and forcing a decision between one of their own that isn’t the Boss and a townie.
I’d crunch up some numbers to prove my point, but since everyone is buying her completely incoherent story, I suspect it’d be a waste of my time, so I won’t even bother.
Exactly. Lynching known scum means that we at least put our finger in the dike for a while.
Fuck it. I’m not voting to kill myself. I’ll let you guys do that if you think it’s best. My vote is staying on the scum I know for the rest of the Day.
unvote Drain Bead
vote Blaster Master
No, lynching her would eliminate the:
BlaM: You’re scum.
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!BlaM: You’re scum.
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!
Drain: No, you’re scum!
Blam: No, you’re scum!