Yeah, I’d love to lunch the boss, but lynching scum and keeping their numbers down as much as possible is good too. Until we find out who the boss is, I think it’s best to lynch any scum.
I’m not sure what she would be fishing for, if she were scum. She’s either a concerned townie who’s misplayed her hand (no thanks to the Town, I might add) or a scum that’s taking a huge risk for . . . what? If she came up with a different result than Priest it doesn’t seem like there’d be a need to force Pleonast to say anything, really - unless the scum are idiots. It’d make much more sense for them to quietly recruit Pleonast instead of making such an unholy fuss over the whole thing.
Drain Bead what advantage will the town gain if Pleonast reveals his ‘real’ role?
You seem to be missing the fact that if you come up town, I die immediately tomorrow, so the scum can’t go forcing these sorts of decisions again and again. They won’t have a detective to do it with. Ditto if I die toDay and all my info is confirmed. You’re attempting to create a fear of something that will never be allowed to happen.
Dear God, what are you smoking? Playing dumb doesn’t help. You’re playing your townie cred as a former detective to increase the odds that I get lynched before you do. If I get lynched, then you’ll be proven as scum, but it won’t matter, becasue not only did you get a townie lynched (and I suspect you know power role as well), but you bought the Boss another Night to recruit, and chances are you’d get lynched the next Day, buying the Boss at least two Nights of recruitment AND a useful power role in exchange for Vanilla scum. Sounds like a DAMN good trade to me.
The answer to that question entirely depends on the answer he gives to me. If it’s the right answer, I’ll confirm it. If it’s the wrong answer, we’ve found the Boss.
Well, so would lynching BlaM.
Lynching BlaM now and lynching him later - what’s the difference? I do think we need to focus the discussion on finding the Boss, but upon reflection I’d rather kill someone that’s going to give us some kind of solid result afterwards. That means either lynching him or Drain Bead toDay. Either lynch will tell us something in the end.
Having to choose, I’m going to vote Blaster Master for the time being. Like I said, I’ll post my pet theory when I have a chance to sit down and put together a more solid case, which means sometime after tonight, given my schedule.
Maybe you two (Drain Bead and Blaster Master) are both scum, and you’re cleverly playing off each other.
If you’re both scum, whichever of you is not lynched will come off looking vindicated if we Towners assume a false dichotomy (i.e. that one and only one of you is scum). That leaves one scum who’s more or less unimpeachably assumed to be Town. And even if I’m right, and we suspect the ploy, you’ve cleverly sacrificed one non-Boss scum and given the Boss another night to do his business.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner! Trust me, if I were scum, the entire scum team would know Pleonast’s true role by now and I would have no need to make a big deal of the fact that he lied about his roleclaim. I would have gone silently to my grave without breathing a word of it, or just made something up.
But by doing this, implying that he’s not the Priest, whether he is or not, now makes a former confirmed townie under suspicion. He could come out and say “Yes, I am, she’s lying!” then we lynch her and she comes up scum, and he seems confirmed again. But in all that, if he really isn’t, he could have been recruited with that knowledge and simply saying that to gain pro-town cred and further distract us from finding the Boss. If he’s not, and he admits it, he then goes straight from the confirmed pool to the unconfirmed pool, regardless of what his role is, and then they don’t actually have to recruit him at all.
OK, I think I get it. You investigated Pleonast and got a power role back, different from priest. That means that either Pleonast is lying about being a priest to cover for another power role, or he is the boss and you got a random power role back from your investigation.
That is quite true, and something I do not want people to lose sight of. If you believe me and kill BlaM, the fact that he comes up scum does not mean anything to whether or not I wake up scum Tomorrow. At best, it confirms me up to toDay. That’s true about pretty much anyone that has been “confirmed” town. The only true confirmation is death.
Oh wow, let’s see if we can gain more townie cred with faulty logic. It doesn’t matter WHAT he says, you can confirm it either way! If he’s town and you’re not, you just confirm whatever he says, scum gain that information, and you gain townie cred. If he’s scum, you can confirm whatever he says.
No need to get belligerent. You’ve already implied that I’m “playing dumb,” now you’re getting sarcastic. It’s just a game. Try not to insult your fellow players, even if they are trying to get you killed.
The simple answer to what you just said is “I’m town. Therefore, I will only confirm what he says if it matches with what I saw. If it doesn’t, I will say so, because that means we’ve found the boss.” But we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.
We need to hold off lynching scum until we get the Boss. We are screwed .period. if we do not lynch the Boss. You agree with that, I assume?
So the choice is between lynching the Boss sooner or lynching her (:p) later. What does lynching a known scum gain us? Please, tell me, because I don’t see how having one fewer scum helps us when the Boss has a high chance of replacing them.
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Drain, you are acting seriously anti-Town ToDay. In order of importance:
- Your self vote. We need to lynch the Boss. Unless you’re claiming you are the Boss, do not vote for yourself.
- Your vote for Blaster. Do you think he is the Boss?
- The way you’re handling your investigation of me. What does the Town gain by your actions?
I’m unsure if you’re a Townie who isn’t thinking things through carefully (no fault implied, I do the same thing sometimes), or a Scum who’s trying to wreak the most havoc. Either way, you’re not the Boss (or if you are, you lucky dog for hitting the real Detective so early and congrats for a great bluff), and I’m not voting for you.
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Blaster, you are at the top of my lynch list, but postponed until the Boss is dead. You can crunch the numbers for yourself, but the odds are you have been recruited, from the standpoint of an unprivileged observer. If you are still Town, then we will trade you for one of them, which will be worth it once the Boss is gone.
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My list of Boss candidate is
dotchan [Freudian Slit]
bufftabby
Darth Sensitive
Hawkeyeop
HazelNutCoffee
Hockey Monkey
MHaye
Millit the Frail
OneCentStamp
Santo Rugger
USCDiver [Diomedes]
Eleven players. Without search capability, it is much more difficult to check out each one. I’m not sure where to start.
On preview: wow, you guys post fast. Sorry, if anything above has already been addressed.
Well, as much fun as all this running around in circles yelling “scum! scum!” is, I’m much more willing to take my chances and lose BLaM rather than DB right now. My vote stays where it is.
Dining with the Boss? Major scum tell.
I’m not being belligerent. I’m getting frustrated because all of these points you keep bringing up to make it look like you’re pro-town are decidedly lacking logic and any pro-town motivation. It’s circular logic, “I’m town, therefore when Pleonast says his role and I confirm it, it will prove that I’m town.” Do you see the circular nature of that at all?
Cmon, it’s been a while since I’ve had good Italian food.
It doesn’t even confirm you up to Today. It could mean that you’re having a fight in which one of you gets reconfirmed as townie.
Hypotheses: both are scum
BlaM lynch: DB goes - “Look see! I found scum! I’m town! Yay town!” (plot plot plot)
DB lynch: BlaM goes - “Look! Told you they were nasty scum! I’m town afterall! Yay town!” (plot plot plot)
I’m going to repeat what I’ve said above.
We need to kill either Drain Bead or Blaster Master toDay.
If we lynch Drain Bead and she turns up Town, well - obviously all her investigations were true, and BlaM is next. If she turns up scum, then yay, I guess.
If we lynch BlaM and he turns up Town, we lynch Drain Bead next. If he turns up scum, then we’ll have confirmed Drain Bead for the time being.
I am really not buying Drain Bead being scum. It’s just all wrong. Falsely identifying a townie as scum (as she is supposedly doing with BlaM) is just asking for trouble. The smartest thing she could have done was to simply confirm a townie as a townie. What she’s done toDay just seems too much of a risk with too little gain for scum to be taking at this point.