Pleonast.
Jesus Christ, I don’t fucking care. It doesn’t matter who goes first at this point, but both of you aren’t helping any by being coy. I’m now going to shut about this matter until one of you comes to your senses and coughs up.
My information is none of the above.
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We can’t trust either of you, so just pretend we’re in King Soloman’s kingdom and make some sacrifices here.
I would prefer it to be Pleonast but like HazelNutCoffee I really don’t care at this point. It just needs to be resolved soon!
I don’t really want to hear anything more about this now; it’s very much like knowing who is a lowly-scum; good to know but why argue when we can find the boss. And i’m saying very much I doubt either of those two are the boss.
I don’t care which of you does it first, but it’s a distraction that either needs to be put to bed or dropped. One of you needs to man up and spill. Now.
Pleonast, will this additional info reveal yet another town power role?
It’s resolved as far as I’m concerned and I’m not being coy. I’m making the most pro-Town play I can.
Obviously, I’m not a Priest, and are therefore recruitable to some extent. That means I’m as trustable as any other claimed power role. Revealing which one specifically only benefits the Mafia (being lynched is better than telling the Mafia exactly how and why they could recruit me; right?). It certainly won’t help prove my current alignment. If you don’t trust me enough to believe that, then there’s really no point not lynching me once the Boss is gone (or sooner if you think I’m the Boss).
The only reason I have to reveal anything is prove or disprove whatever Drain says she found.
Back to Boss hunting:
unvote Menocchio
vote Darth Sensitive
Once the Boss is found, Blaster and Menocchio are at the top of my lynch order.
Umm… Pleo? Why isn’t **Drain **at the top of your lynch order, after the Boss?
What we know:
Day one
The town no lynched
No one role claimed
Night one
Koldanar (the vig) did not attempt a kill
The godfather killed
Day two
No recruits yet
Pleo claims priest
Night two
Idle bows out of game
The godfather attempts to recruit
Day three
Sinjin claims mason
Menocchio claims doctor
Hal claims priest
Night three
The godfather attempted to recruit
Koldanar killed a priest and turned into a priest
Day four
Night four
The godfather attempted to recruit
Day five
One Cent claims beat cop
Blaster claims power role
Thoughts:
Pleo was not recruited when he claimed. If he is the godfather, he claimed very early. I believe he is the bishop. Remember, we now know the pronoun argument was incorrect.
Sinjin, One Cent, Koldanar, and Hal Briston are verifiable roles. I will take them at face value
Menocchio seems fishier to me, but I’ll believe him short of a counter claim. Regardless, I don’t think the godfather would claim doctor.
I think Blaster Master would have recruited if he was scum day one. I just can’t see him making an illogical play. I also think there is a good chance he has since been recruited.
Likewise, I believe Drainbead isn’t the godfather, but may be recruited. Perhaps as early as night two. I think my idea earlier that she was the godfather and recruited is unrealistic. At the point that Drainbead revealed, the godfather would not have yet talked to his recruit.
I believe that if the godfather was close to being lynched, there would be a desperate attempt to keep him alive. No such attempt was made to help Darth and he was damn close. I do not believe him to be a godfather candidate.
I will not vote for any of the above people. More analysis and a vote to come.
Because I have no reason to believe she has been recruited yet. At this point, the simplest explanation is we are both Townies. However, if she fails to correctly identify my role, I will know she is no longer with us (and my additional information should convince the rest of you). If she correctly identifies my role, then her actions will be consistent with a Townie.
Hawkeyeop, you left out that Drain Bead claimed Detective on Day 3.
Have any of Drain Bead’s investigations been confirmed AFTER she made them? IIRC, her investigation of Koldnar was revealed after he had claimed (damn no search!).
Thanks.
Yes, but she only claimed Koldanar as town. Any scum would have that info.
Please, Pleonast. Help me understand. How does Drain Bead’s knowledge of you confirm that she is Town?
Here’s the answer. IT DOESN’T. It is perfectly possible for her to know your role and still be scum. She could have been recruited after she investigated you; she could have been recruited as Capo and investigated you. The fact that she knew you were lying proves nothing more than her role as Detective.
Please let me know if I am overlooking something, because as hard as I try I cannot think of a scenario where Drain Bead’s knowledge of your role confirms her to be Town.
One might say NAF’s lynch was an attempt to “help Darth.” Scum would be stupid if they tried to directly help a Boss about to get lynched. The smartest ploy would be to derail such a lynch by building a strong case for someone else under suspicion.
It could have been a misguided lynch by well-meaning Town . . . but then again, maybe not.
:: goes back to re-read ::
Except there was no desperate ploy to lynch Naf. No smoking gun. I would think that if Darth was the godfather, that the scum would do all they could to buy another day or two. Have another scum claim to be a cop and caught scum. Something other than just hoping people find Naf to be slightly scummier.
Neither Drain nor I can confirm each other’s current alignment. However, we can disprove each other, if she goes first. If I go first, she does not risk anything.
The whole NAF vote is the smoking gun. There was no good reason to lynch him.
I’ll only check in occasionally over the weekend, so don’t expect any quick responses from me until Monday.
:: takes deep breath ::
So what?
Your saying “we can disprove each other” means that you suspect Drain Bead of not being a Detective. She goes first, and if she gets it wrong, that means she was lying about her role.
IF you think that Drain Bead is lying about being a Detective, then I really give up. I can’t imagine why the hell anyone would lie about something like that when the lie would catch up to you sooner rather than later. Both of you are just being plain stubborn.
Sorry. I know I said I’d let this go, but it’s REALLY FRUSTRATING when two people I think are Town insist on being ridiculously unhelpful. Scum must be rubbing their hands in glee at this point.
Finding the reasons for a vote uncompelling is different than there being a smoking gun.