Mafia: The Mob is Recruiting [Game Finished]

Thanks guys. The vote has been fixed.

That’s it? This is the SUPAR SEKRET SQWIRREL info you had? I had a half suspicion that you were the bishop, but you’ve been too coy. I’m not sure if I should believe you or not, but you still finally revealed, even if you did it second, so I’ll take off my vote for now.

Unvote: Pleonast

If someone lies about their role, I have to assume that I could have failed the 50% saving throw. I can understand why Pleonast did what he did, but I’m sure he can also understand why I was suspicious. If he really were the Boss, and I said nothing, the game would have been completely lost. I even tried to get Pleonast to reveal at one point, because I didn’t want it to come to this.

I’m not saying anyone is anything. I’m saying they could be. Hell, hotflungwok could be, but I’m going to assume a town result is a town result unless I get an indication to the contrary, such as the role I get doesn’t match the role that was claimed.

I hope this has been enough of a confirmation that I am still town for the time being. I know I don’t have much longer that I can say that–I’ll either get nightkilled or recruited at some point.

My vote is staying on BlaM for the rest of the Day. Vote for the one you know is scum, and all. Hopefully I live to investigate and report again.

This is where I believe the godfather is:

Millit the Frail
Hockey Monkey
bufftabby
USCDiver [sub for Diomedes]
MHaye
Santo Rugger
HazelNutCoffee
Hotflungwok
dotchan [sub for Freudian Slit after dying on Day 3]

The person who jumped out at me when I was putting together the timeline was Buffy. Her arguments all seemed to echo other posters or were attempts to lynch based on a generalized reason (vote lurkers, vote aggressive player, etc). I’ll try to make a more extensive argument tomorrow, but the lack of search makes it more difficult.

vote bufftabby

God damn but that was a lot of shuffling over not much at all. I wish Drain had tried again rather than being all mysterious and Pleo just admitted to being the bishop rather than force Drain to prove herself (which only proves that she was the detective, or another scum was and communicated the bishop’s true role to her).

Unvote Pelonast
Vote Blaster Master

I just don’t see the case for Darth Sensitive. I want to hunt the boss, but to pass over a known scum (or at least test our supposed Detective), I need something more.

That was just…poetry, man. <wipes tear>

Hmm. Interesting. But I disagree with both your reasoning and conclusion. Here’s why (besides the simple fact that I know you’re wrong, which isn’t exactly a quality defense):

Generalized reasons for voting?
Nope. I gave thorough reasonings for all votes. Sure, I’ve been wrong as hell, but I never voted based purely on lurkitude, as I explained at the time.

And “vote aggressive player”? I challenge you to find a quote where I indicated any such reasoning, lack of search be damned. Because that simply did not happen.
Not to mention that if I “echo other posters,” it’s because I agree with them. I’ve made my own arguments and had my own opinions too. But feel free to try to make a more extensive argument. It just isn’t there. Hell, do a re-read. I’m clean as a whistle! :smiley:

It’s not possible that “another scum” could have communicated Pleonast’s role to me. In order to do this, they would have had to do it before I claimed, as I breadcrumbed my Pleonast result in advance of being forced to roleclaim. Scum didn’t recruit on the first Night–their first recruit was the second Night, the Night I was subbed in for Idle. So the scum could not have recruited the “real Detective” and then told me the results of the investigations–clearly I had the results before they had the opportunity to recruit me if that were the case. While it’s possible that the scum could have recruited Idle the night I subbed in, I don’t think they would have recruited a new sub to the game–it makes sense to recruit someone who was in the middle of it, rather than someone who had not even read the game thread until that Night. And as much as I would have liked to self-confirm my results, I couldn’t try again on Pleonast, because later on that Day I had to claim, and I knew my Nights of investigating were limited. I needed to keep trying to whittle down the pool of unknowns.

Assuming what I know to be true, that BlaM will come up scum, what should we make of his defenses toDay? Is he trying to smear MTF and save DS? Or is he trying to vote for a fellow scum? Or are neither of them scum and he’s trying to smudge them both?

Also…only one person toDay has yet to vote, and that’s hotflungwok. I’m interested in knowing why he has yet to vote. Clearly there are people to vote for toDay, and according to my quick scroll of the thread, he posted as recently as yesterday afternoon. Why no vote yet?

Interesting that you leave Darth off this list. Any reason why?

I know. It’s the best breadcrumb I’ve ever given. I assume you figured it out immediately?

Your disappointed that Drain proved she did in fact investigate me? Very scummy.

While that Town can be sure that either of us is still Townie, at least even proven that we’re at least acting Townie. And that neither of us is the Boss (without some extraordinary luck).

That should be “the Town can’t be sure”.

Also interesting that he included hotflungwok, who was Idle’s only investigation and came up town. It’s possible, certainly, but the odds are relatively slim.

Also interesting that the list is basically just the only players left who haven’t claimed a Power Role (minus Darth Sensitive and Hawkeyeop).

All in all a worthless list and suspicion should always fall on people who make worthless lists.

FOS Hawkeyeop

[QUOTE=Pleonast]
Interesting that you leave Darth off this list. Any reason why?

Yes. What you want more than that? It was from a belief that if the godfather was close to being lynched, the scum would have done all that was in their power to delay said lynch. Let’s say that Darth was the godfather. I would think when there was first risk of Darth getting lynched, a recruited scum would do something to stop that lynch. Perhaps claim to be a cop that has found a possible godfather. We would likely follow-up on that lead, and lynch whoever the accused. The next day we would likely lynch the accuser for lying. Even then, we still wouldn’t know if the accuser was trying to protect Naf or Darth. The extra time would give the godfather the chance to keep recruiting. I just can’t see the scum just sitting back and hoping people find the case against Naf more compelling than the one against Darth.

That is the list of unknowns. I don’t have a reason to doubt any of the claims, so the godfather lies in the unknowns. If someone claimed priest or cop with no evidence, they would still be on the list.

More that I think you could have been recruited night two, and lying about hotflungwork. I think you would of been a logical target night two. A new player to the game who no one would look too closely at for a bit.

Except people looked at me closely the very next Day! Do you seriously think that I got recruited Night Two and the scum told me to make sure I had to claim Detective the next Day?

But there aren’t any posting style inconsistencies. No history to keep track of. You were a fresh face - you could have brushed stuff off as getting up to speed.

Your detective claim worked, didn’t it? You weren’t lynched. Scum and town who were close to the lynch would act the same way there: let slip what they know. If you were detective turned scum, you’d still be able to say “I’m a detective, see! Information!”, which is the exact same thing that you would say if you weren’t recruited.

Well, because like some people said before, we need to find the boss. I said before that lynching scum in lieu of the boss was better than nothing, but since that was way too subtle for you…

Vote Blaster Master

But how do we know that Drainbead isn’t recruited? In fact, there is plenty of reason to think she has been. She was a new player day two, which made her a potential target based on the lack of post history. Since then she has been a claimed detective, which makes her even more tempting as a recruit. Her behavior has been strange as well lately from her announcement that she wasn’t recruited to her odd complete about face on trusting Pleo. Lynching people who we know are recruited is a bad play, but not an awful one. Lynching people who might be recruited and might be a town power role, but aren’t likely to be the boss is a disastrous strategy.

Well, One Cent looked at you, but his reading came up empty. You wouldn’t have talked to the godfather at that point, so that strategy would have had to have been yours alone.