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When you throw crap like that into your argument, then it looks like misogyny to me.
I don’t know, but there has to be more than the venting of frustration for something that will work for me. I respond more to reason, maybe reluctantly sometimes, but in the end I won’t shoot myself in the foot with stubbornness.
Clear labeling is an important step. You can blame whoever you want when that hasn’t happened, but it hasn’t been the practice of the board to enforce that much. In most cases a mod steps in and alters a thread title voluntarily without mention. If the rules of this board are going to be respected that have to be applied in content-free manner. Unclear labeling of threads has to be addressed in every case. Obviously every case doesn’t require a warning, but even in the most innocent context has to be noted to remind us all of the importance of the rule.
And you and others who have nothing positive to add and only want to attack those who disagree with you should stop it. Women can tell of their experiences here and in real life without lumping all men together, or all women for that matter. It’s one thing to talk about how something makes you feel, it’s quite another to attribute malevolent motivations to everything you don’t like.
I understand the way a male dominated board like this colors the effect of far from important aspects of the problem. I myself hate anvils because i have to keep dodging them as they fall from the sky. Most of them don’t hit me, but I’ll curse the ones that aren’t even aimed at me. That’s great in some contexts, but we also need contexts where we have to deal with this on a dispassionate rational level. That may not be comforting to the people who feel they’ve been wronged, but I think it is a way that also has to be followed to find a solution.
I’d hope a female Doper could start a GD thread on this subject to identify those who are disingenuous trolls. A female Doper not because the gender of the OP should matter, but to avoid the knee-jerk reactions of some Dopers who only seek to spout venom about this subject.
Since this is ALL going over your head, how about something simpler. How about agreeing that women have the right to have a thread about buying underwear without men expressing their opinion about boobs?
This is how people “debate” here. The real board culture is ad hominem attacks, words and quotes taken out of context, hypocrisy, and arguments conducted in bad faith. It’s sad actually because this board does have many highly educated people. Unfortunately, it’s a game to them.
I actually agree with that. I know I gave up on the lot of you ages ago. But one wonders if you’ve plowed back through your own posts in search of a good-faith argument or (especially) a real effort at understanding a perspective not your own?
They’re just two posters and those who don’t like child porn can ignore them, right?
I think that was settled a while ago. It didn’t need as much brouhaha as was involved, the existing threadshitting policy should have covered it.
On the other hand, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with men sharing their experiences in threads about what women think. Criticizing women for what they do think as happened in the Hooters thread is flat out wrong, and I don’t recall any noting there. I don’t like to report posts that aren’t spamming, I wish the mods could do more to read the threads, but considering what they get paid (it’s a negative number) I don’t think that will happen.
Good OP and some great contributions along the way. Personally I think bringing it up from time to time is the only possible approach to dealing with the issue. In a way it is similar to dealing with trolling. It can’t be dealt with through moderation without creating an entirely bloodless forum*, and any discussion of it automatically fills up with examples of the exact problem it points out.
*That’s only sort of true, but although it is possible to have active messaging boards that are also strictly moderated to be nice in almost every way, it is not possible to convert an existing one without losing a lot of momentum.
My ghod-It’s like your left brain doesn’t know what your right brain is saying. I can’t tell anymore if you are trolling or suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Don’t beat about the bush - you have an accusation to make, at least have the guts to say it plainly.
I’d agree with you. I think that’d be threadshitting. Oh man, now I’m a potty mouth. But that is the technical term.
You won’t see me in a thread where women are discussing what to buy and cracking tit jokes. That’s rude and disrespectful. But I don’t have a problem with another thread that is tit jokes or pics or whatever. Now if this place devolved into porn gifs I wouldn’t be happy about it because I’m not here for nudes or that sort of discussion in general.
I will tell you why I’m here. I like discussing topics that are “taboo” or borderline. That’s why I like the free speech, genetics in sport, a woman’s place, the Confederate Flag, etc. topics.
But again, I see nothing wrong with telling people to not participate in x,y, or z if they don’t like x,y, or z. If I go to McDonald’s and get the caramel sundae I don’t get whiny because I’m not in the mood for a Filet-O-Fish.
Just two and both Male I believe. The Manopoly on paedophilia must be toppled!
Lady Paedos Now! No more child molestation, make it Femalestation!
That’d be example 1, ad-hominem attack.
Late to the monstro love party, but I didn’t want to be left out, so I’m a big fan of monstro too!
No, stupid, that’s just an insult. Don’t try and talk all fancy, it’s not a good look on you when you inevitably fuck it up.
A) Nobody wants to hear your sexist ass mansplaining what women SHOULD be talking about, especially from a creeper like you.
- Shut up, BigTard.
iii) No–really? You thought that THIS was the appropriate thread to tell women what to be upset about and how to express their thoughts, beliefs and feelings? Seriously?? Even for a sexist woman-phobe like you, BigTard, that’s pretty damned fucked up. Should they submit new thread ideas and posts to you for your approval? Or will you just school them when they don’t say what you want them to?
Oh my gosh, I had no idea you cared. That’s so swee–
Hate speech, lol. Seriously, dude. I know when you started that ATMB thread you weren’t up to date on the Skald stuff. All good so far. But then when the real issue was explained to you, you called it “whining” and “childish nonsense”, and dug in your heels defending Skald’s actions and calling them “harmless”. That’s why you got the response you did. Is this rational enough for you?
My point is that some posters seem to think the male-focused PoV issue is the one that really matters, is the interesting part. The female PoV is only discussed in terms of the male PoV.en are PCs, women are NPCs.
It’s like when we have a thread about FGM, it always turns into a discussion of the ethics of circumcision, FGM has to be discussed only in terms of to what degree it is like or inlike circumcision, etc. For many (male) posters, FGM is only interesting where it connects to the male experience and thebthread quickly becomes about that. .
And who are you to determine what a post deserves? You are implying that the evil mods stop you from insulting posters who post content you don’t like. You can always use the pit. But why should other posters, who might enjoy certain threads, have to deal with hostile and bitter malcontents ruining an otherwise peaceful thread?