I think there are too many other variables to conclude that.
How do you even know if your coworker’s son is circumcised in the first place, unless he told you? Unless he’s Jewish. Not all men in America are circumcised.
Circumcised man here. I don’t know that changes to the glans are that relevant. I don’t touch it because it is TOO sensitive, if non-circumcised glans are more sensitive I’m not sure how those guys could bear it.
Hopefully not a country with frequent sand storms. :eek:
In my experience, whenever I try to generalize about these things I can come up with more exceptions than not. To most guys the only reason to use lubrication is to simulate being in the type of orifice he’s fantasizing about. But most guys’ imagination can take care of that without it.
I’m a very visual person, so when I was a teenager, I used to draw my fantasies . . . and it could take the better part of an hour to get the art exactly right, then a couple of minutes to “finish.” And I must say that my drawing skills grew exponentially.
And regarding lubrication in porn: The necessity of performing for an extended amount of time would have a numbing effect. The lotion would provide some enhancement, also for the sake of his partner.
And I don’t know whether most of you guys are aware of this, but . . . American men tend to be cut, and non-Americans tend to be uncut. But that’s starting to change. Younger Americans are tending toward uncut, including some Jews.
My partner is uncut, and his foreskin covers the glans completely, even with an erection. But sometimes it gets pulled back, and any friction is unbearable.
I can only speak from my personal (foreskin intact) experience, but I have to assume there must be some loss of feeling in the circumcised glans, since you guys are apparently able to walk around wearing pants…it would be painfully, impossibly uncomfortable for me to do so with an unsheathed glans rubbing against clothes.
(Never used lotion, myself.)
To me its like being sexually excited turns those nerve endings on. No excitement then its ok being touched, excitement and its not ok.
Oh we’re in GQ, sorry I thought this was IMHO. Reference:
There’s also a really great episode of Penn and Teller’s Bullshit where they interview a couple men who were circumcised as babies and have voluntarily have undergone foreskin restoration in adulthood. They reported increased sensitivity/pleasure in the glans and shaft afterward. It’s anecdotal, but “sensation” is not something that can be objectively measured anyway. This is as close to a reference as I could get from some initial searching: http://www.foreskin-restoration.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3805
Do uncircumcised men suffer from premature ejaculation at a higher rate?
Well, looked thru Wikipedia’s entry. Saw PE has many possible causes, penile sensitivity being only one (and apparently a minor one at that).
Looks like it’s more likely to be a genetically-predisposed condition.
Anecdotally, uncircumcised and never had an issue with PE.
I really didn’t think they did jimbuff314, but as a circumcised male I have run the gamut from first entry rapture to post climax overstimulation and I just can’t wrap my head around a greater sensitivity. Any greater sensitivity that I currently have would be pull-away uncomfortable… or maybe I’m missing something?
I may be of some use here as I got circumcised two years or so ago as an adult in his 30s.
I learnt to masturbate without lube and as such I continue doing it that way. There’s no need for it but it may add to enjoyment. Partners have liked to use lube on me though and hey, it does feel good. Regarding loss of sensitivity, I have to side with some of the uncut people on here. My glans was extremely sensitive to the point where I did not like it to be touched at all. Now I can touch it and, well, it feels nice. So I’ve gained that. What I have lost, however, is something that cut (as babies) people and those trying to do a restoration will never really understand: exactly how incredibly sensitive, in a really nice way, the end of the foreskin is. So I’ve gained something and lost something.
For those wondering, I got cut as the foreskin was a bit too tight and the doctor recommended it. It was done under a local anaesthetic and believe me, seeing your foreskin being cut off is something that no man should ever see (they tried to hold something up so I couldn’t see but it wasn’t perfect and at one point it fell down).
Finally, there’s another thing I have gained but will maybe lose after many years. The glans is always exposed and doesn’t utterly lack sensitivity, to the point that clothes rubbing can feel a bit too nice. I cycle to work and I’ve had to stop to rearrange down there because it was enjoyable in a way I really didn’t want it to be in public. It has also happened when walking wearing jeans. Very, very strange. That never happened when I was uncut.
Finally, the OP reminded me of an excellent moment in an episode of “Roseanne”. DJ had started masturbating and had been a long, long time in the bathroom. Darlene’s comment on this was along the lines of “he’s either really good or really, really bad at it”. Oh yeah, no real change with how long it takes to orgasm.
I do remember one time I had an issue with oversensitivity. I had been mosquito-bit 3 - 4 times on my penis in either my late teens or early 20s. (Yeah, I don’t remember how it happened. Please don’t think less of me for sharing! :^) ) What ensued was several days of the most exquisite agony just to walk. Oddly enough, I remember it rather fondly.
Those studies are always to be taken with a grain of salt.
Most men circumcised in adulthood are correcting a problem so it makes sense that they would report better sex afterward.
Conversely, people willing to undergo “restoration” are already convinced there’s a significant issue and can’t be trusted as unbiased to accurately report on the results. I doubt you find many who say “Well, boy, that was dumb of me; any idea where I can get this cut off, too?”
As of this point in the thread, I detect no direct comparisons, no data, and therefore, no way to answer the question here. What’s needed is some set of figures that tell us the mean time to climax during masturbation for both sets of men, and lacking that, we have mainly lovely little reports and moderately interesting anecdotes. So far, still no answer on the question of time to climax.
Hilarious, and apt.
My uncircumcised anecdotal data point:
I have been able to rub one out in less than five minutes. When I was younger and still had great guilt about masturbation and fear of discovery, I learned to do it as quickly as possible.
I have also spent over two hours delaying and building my climax (those are usually the best!). I have also, on occasion, given up trying to come, because it just wasn’t going to happen. Very frustrating, I do not recommend it.
One of my earliest memories was of my mother washing my penis as I struggled to get away and screamed bloody murder because of the pain it caused. As a result, I was very determined to not let anything touch my unsheathed glans. Of course, when it came to intercourse, I managed to overcome my fear, and I was rewarded with learning that the inside of a sufficiently aroused 18 year-old vagina is very slippery.
When I thought back on the penis washing, I tried to think of what it felt like. The best I could come up with at first, was the skin underneath a blister that has had the overlying skin removed – very tender. More recently, I discovered that, sometimes after an orgasm, that the glans is just too tender to continue to stimulate, like it was too ticklish to touch. That is a much better analogy of what it felt like, since there can be a fine line between pain and pleasure.
I was so traumatized by the penis washing, that I never washed my own glans. Thus, I learned the meaning of “smegma”.
Sometime in my 20’s, I discovered that it was no longer too sensitive to touch. A couple of times, I tried wearing clothes while I left the glans unsheathed. I abandoned this practice after a few times, because my foreskin has a tendency to re-sheathe the glans, trapping pubic hairs in the process. That was too uncomfortable, sometimes painful, so I gave up the practice.
I was quite surprised that some of the uncut men here still experience pain when their glans is touched. After I discovered that it did not hurt me anymore, I assumed that it was something that uncircumcised males just grew out of.