Mall of America Assault and Incel Crime?

I’m going to call you on this,** Urbanredneck**. My original question was whether the crime had some connection to the acts of violence committed by self-proclaimed members of the incel/MRA/MGTOW community. Then Kimstu claimed that particular segment of wingnuts does not normally embrace black people.

And you came in on Post #5 to quote a black “conservative” who’s upset that the media hasn’t made this a black vs. white issue.

And you agree with him.

As I said, I’m okay with this thread veering away from the incel issue, but you’re one of the people who steered the bus into a strawman.

I agree with you, without reservation.

That said, Elliot Rodger (sometimes, even often, referred to as “Saint Elliot” on the various cesspools known as incel fora) was not, strictly speaking, “white.”

Ok, then I have to apologize. I didnt catch what “incel” meant in your original OP. To be honest I thought it meant something about race.

I had thought maybe you were trying to say Jesse Peterson is an incel.

From yesterday’s news.
The man accused of throwing a 5-year-old boy off the third floor balcony at the Mall of America in Bloomington, Minnesota Friday told police he had come to the mall that day looking for someone kill.

He allegedly claimed he had made efforts to “talk to women in the Mall, but had been rejected, and the rejection caused him to lash out and be aggressive.”

To me it sounds like the man probably isn’t part of any incel group, but there do seem to be incel type thoughts. Mostly the perpetrator seems to be mentally unstable and lacking mental health help.

‘Incel’ means ‘loser’.

He knew what it meant.

I accept Urbanredneck’s apology. Now let’s move on to Aranda’s overall craziness.

Edit: never mind, already covered.

IIRC, haven’t you participated in threads about incels before?

Funny you didn’t know what it meant. :dubious:

The concept, yes. The word, no.

Sometimes our brains can cause us to do some very stupid things.

Sentenced to 19 years.

Is that unusually fast; sentencing < 2 months after crime?

Three weeks between plea agreement and sentencing hearing is fairly quick. That gap is usually 1-2 months, often closer to 2 months with minor delays in cases I monitor.

It’s notable they reached a plea deal that soon because of the questions about his mental health. This is someone who likely ought to be monitored the rest of his life, so how well will that be taken into account if and when he’s eligible for release?