CNN story
This shitstain admits suffocating a pregnant woman and her 7 yr old son in Texas.
Gee, I wonder what his sentence is going to be?
Whatever it is, it won’t be slow and painful enough.
Too bad he’s not retarted, they’d execute him extra quick. :rolleyes:
I’m only in favor of the death penalty when the victims are defenseless and it can be proven beyond a doubt. This scum sucking maggot admitted it. Assuming the forensics verify it, I say fry his ass.
Oh, wait, that’s inhumane. Like suffocating a pregnant woman or a 7 yr old.
Do it anyway.
I believe that’s spelled retarded. I would have let it go if it was any other word.
This happened close to where I live–I wonder if that’s what the news helicopter was doing parked in the field next to a dozen news vans with their masts extended. :eek:
I ain’t judging on the “fry his ass” bandwagon though, being against the death penalty in all cases.
D’oh!
Thanks for the correction.
Brain dun stopped workin’
Y’all have to remember this is Texas. Where punishment for murder runs from probation to life.
The one that will get him will be the boy, not the mother.
Thus, my title.
Answer me this, since the woman was pregnant, will that count as two murder charges or one?
I would presume (not being a lawyer) that it would depend on the state/jurisdiction he’s being tried in. I find it disturbing, however, that this is happening more and more often - I think it’s a serious errosion of the line between “fetus” and “person” and I don’t care for the clear ramifications on a woman’s right to choose.
That said, two clear cases of confessed murder to two actual persons should be more than enough to throw this man’s ass away for the rest of his natural life.
I agree with this opinion. However, to answer Mr. Blue Sky’s question, Texas will charge him with murder in the death of the fetus.
If he is ever placed in general population, it will be the same as a death sentence. Growing up in a family full of police officers and prison guards, I’ve heard many stories about prison justice and it’s a real thing.
Not unless the laws have changed around here lately. I know as of a few years ago he couldn’t…
I remember the amber alert going out on this one…sad.
Too bad I don’t live in Texas. I’d throw the switch on this guy.
Then again, it is Texas. I’d have to wait in line.
According to the local news, he will be charged with capital murder with multiple victims. The multiple victims include the mother, the fetus and the son.
This tragedy occurred in my neighborhood. The victims lived about 1.5 miles from me and the victim’s bagel shop business was about two miles away. I’ve eaten there on a couple of ocassions, and remember Lisa as being very friendly. This is truly senseless. This scumbag has destroyed the lives of so many people (her family, his family, her friends, neighbors, business partner and customers) all because he didn’t want his wife to find out he had an affair. Yeah, this is so much better. Asshat.
Metacom, do you live near Ponder (where the SUV was found) or near Justin (where the bodies where found)?
Holy shit–I live in the vicinity of Ponder (sort of), but I drove through Justin yesterday 'cause I got out of work late and didn’t want to take Stemmons home. So the helicopter in the field and all the news vans must’ve been the bodies, and all the news vans near 2449 off 35W two days ago must’ve been the SUV?
I’ve been following the story since the Amber alert went out Sunday. Just yesterday I was telling a coworker that I was till hoping they’d somehow be found alive.
Shit.
It just involuntarily makes me wonder how many pro-lifers are also pro-death penalty …
This one isn’t.
Seven months is old enough to be viable. The man obviously knew he was taking three lives. Wasn’t he the baby’s father too?
Maendosa: I find it disturbing, however, that this is happening more and more often - I think it’s a serious errosion of the line between “fetus” and “person” and I don’t care for the clear ramifications on a woman’s right to choose.
According to the story in the OP, though, as Mehitabel noted, the (adult) victim was 7 months pregnant. That is well into the third trimester, when according to the laws of every state (AFAIK), the fetus’s right to life is considered to outweigh the right of a woman to choose an abortion.
I would indeed be disturbed about attempts to prosecute the murder of a pregnant woman in her first trimester on multiple-murder charges, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the right-to-lifers are trying to encourage that. But I don’t think this case falls into that category.
Texas, like all other states, bans late-term abortion (except to save the life or health of the mother) on the grounds that the late-term fetus is enough of a person for its rights to take precedence over the right to choose an abortion. Given that, I don’t have a problem with Texas considering the late-term fetus enough of a person to count as a separate murder victim when the mother is killed.