I should clarify that I’m referring to devout Muslims. That group is most likely to observe Sharia law.
Moderates are still observant but don’t follow the older more extreme practices.
That’s true in every religion. Thankfully most religions have become more moderate over time. The Spanish Inquisition is something Christians never want to repeat.
Yeah, that clarifies things a lot. :dubious:
This has nothing to do with Sharia or even Islam. It’s an unfortunately common ritual from some regions of Africa and Asia which is practised by Muslims, Christians, and others, including in predominately Christian countries such as Ethiopia and Liberia. The fact that practitioners may fall back on an appeal to religious authority to justify it does not make it a valid claim.
Muslims may be more likely to continue it as immigrants because they are more likely to be ghettoized due to prejudice, and live in a milieu insulated from outside influences with consequent stronger pressures to retain their original customs.
And once again…
What does this have to do with Sharia Law?
I’m not an expert on religion. I do have direct experience in how easy it is to fall into extreme religious attitudes.
I was in a full gospel church for two years. There were a few things discouraged like drinking and smoking. We hired a new preacher and before long the sermons denounced watching TV, listening to rock, and other modern entertainment. Then came the dress codes for men and women. He even began questioning whether women should work outside the home. That’s when my wife and I left.
I fully understand how easily a radical iman can influence the people that listen to him.
I’ve read that Muslims abandoned Sharia law centuries ago. It was brought back as part of the shift to conservative practices.
There’s also the issue of religious police. Which goes hand in hand with the Sharia Courts. I’d certainly hope people here don’t deny their existence? They are in countries throughout the Middle East.
I’m stunned beyond belief that of all places, The Dope is endorsing a practice that subjugates women and in some cases persecutes them.
I support religious tolerance. But not to this extreme.
Name one place in the States that has religious police of any faith.
What goes on in other countries is a matter of diplomacy and to some extent, none of our business.
What you should be calling for is for the US to sever ties to Saudi Arabia (among others) over the matter and not pretending it’s happening here.
Yes that is obvious… the word expert is not the one that comes to mind.
It is not worth correcting this confused statement.
No they are not in “countries through the Middle East” your own wikipedia cite shows that is a false assertion. The Religious police are a Saudi idea and institution.
Even the article (the added comment in the brackets), which is dubious cites only
Of these in the Middle East there is two. The Gaza Strip and the Iran.
Now do you want to have some guess as to what percentage of the countries or even the population of the Islamic countries…
What practice?
You clearly have no actual knowledge…
So no you do not support “religious tolerance”
Yet in America, we had a Vice President cancel a meeting today because there would be another woman present at the meeting and his wife couldn’t be there as a chaperone.
And you’re complaining about Muslim cultural attitudes toward women.
He is complaining about his own ignorant stereotype ideas based on superficial half-information and the half understood factoids.
I think he knows he can’t control himself. Remember he has the same rule regarding alcohol.
Seriously? What meeting was this?
I recommend reading a book cowritten by two CNN Intelligence Analysts, Paul Cruickshank, and Tim Lister, Agent Storm. Morten Storm and the other two men have been interviewed several times. I’ve read the book three times.
It’s revealing how entrenched the radicals are in Britain. It’ll be just as bad in the US in a few years.
Oh yes and you will have the Shariah no go zones just like in the France!
and Birmingham.
I notice you do not acknowlege you4 complete and total false assertion above…
the response is so pitiful as to be embarassing.
It’s unfortunate that some people will understand examples of radical Islam coming from Britain or some other western country. Sharia law is a medieval cancer. It must be opposed by all right thinking people without having to quote examples of radical Islam just from the west.
That’s extremely obvious.
Look, Sharia law coming to the U.S. is about as likely as an Inquisition court being set up by the Vatican here. It ain’t gonna happen. If individual people want to go by it? Well, there’s really nothing you can do, anymore than you can stop some quiverful family from having like, 20 kids and making all the women stay home barefoot and pregnant. I don’t think anyone here likes religious radicals, or wants to see a theocracy. But that isn’t going to happen here.
If you’re really, truely worried about the way sharia law is put into practice, why not try and worry how women are treated in countries such as Iran and Saudi Arabia, and contribute to charities that do something about that? (BTW, FGM isn’t really practiced in either of those countries. Do some research, dude. Your ignorance is honestly painful.)
I’m well aware FGM is an abomination practiced in some African countries. Primarily by Muslims, but I readily conceed other religions in those countries probably do it to.
I brought it up because there’s a current US case with over a hundred victims. Who knows if that’s the tip of the iceberg? They’re still investigating
Yes, only a few Muslim countries have religious police. The others use their regular police to enforce their religious laws. Somehow I don’t think the people arrested particularly care.
I see cases like this reported several times a year.
I know extremist religious practices are not a major problem in the US. Yet. It’s our job to make sure that doesn’t change.
Again, I reiterate that people need to read Agent Storm. It’s not about how terrible “those” people are.
It’s a true story of a man’s journey from hard core Danish biker & drug seller to devout Muslim. A man who only wanted to better himself. That desire got twisted into something very ugly. He saw and did some terrible things. Eventually he realized that this was not the true path of Islam.
If you only read one book in 2017. Then please read this one. It does show the extremist world for what it is.
