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I already posted about this in the thread asking about Windows 10 obsolescence, but dammit, this is a major rant and I’m gonna rant about it here, too.
“Your browser will soon be incompatible with this community. To keep participating here, please upgrade your browser or learn more.”
All four browsers running on Windows 7 are getting this message from Discourse. Why? Because the kids running the place feel they must implement – and I quote – “relative color syntax, subgrid, and lookbehind regex”. I mean, it astonished me that we’ve survived this long without relative color syntax, subgrid, and lookbehind regex! It’s about time we got relative color syntax, subgrid, and lookbehind regex!
Fortunately, I can have all these features by throwing out my beautiful Dell Optiplex 7010 and spending about $1500 on a new one with Windows 11. That way I can enjoy relative color syntax, subgrid, and lookbehind regex. Or I can do nothing and be effectively banned from the SDMB in May. Or just use my Windows 11 laptop that I haven’t even set up yet.
There really is no limit to the arrogance of entitled techie geeks. 
I keep getting update requests/demands that I upgrade to Windows11.
So, will our PCs ‘Brick’ if we don’t?
That computer is 13 years old. You’re like Homer Simpson and his sandwich that was killing him with food poisoning but he couldn’t give it up.
And you can get a Windows 11 computer for less than $250 from Walmart, or go even cheaper and get a Chromebook for a little more than $50 if you really want to go cheap (if you don’t need Windows 11, just want something with a compatible browser). Suggesting that you need a $1500 computer to be able to visit the SDMB is absurd.
Expecting a computer to last forever is kind of crazy. If your computer was 3 years old and you were griping about obsolescence, I’d be completely on board. But 13 years?
The computer is much closer to 3 years old than 13 (fo me) though admittedly Windows 7 was released in October, 2009. But I bought this refurbished from Dell Finance (their leasing division) and loved it right from the start. The first thing I did was replace the mechanical HDD with a Samsung Pro SSD. That SSD now has 46,290 hours on it, so that’s how long it’s been in continuous use (not counting “sleep” time) – around 5.3 years.
I guess that’s a long time for computer technology these days, but the basis of my rant is that it shouldn’t be!
As for Chromebooks etc, I already have a Windows 11 laptop, but I need a good desktop computer that I can use with my beautiful 24" Dell Ultrasharp IPS monitor. What pisses me off the most is that this huge disruption is for a couple of fucking stupid obscure features they want to add to Discourse that no one needs and probably will never use. Based on my experience in the corporate world, where changes often happen just for the sake of change, someone is angling for a bonus for a “clever” idea.
My husband just saw a delivery truck slightly hit my car, which is only a few months old. There seems to only be some mud transfer, no scratches or dents, so there’s not really any proof but he did see the car “rock” with the contact.
The car was in my driveway. The van turned the wrong way down our one way street, and turned around, bumping my car in the process.
I’m so fucking mad. Fortunately there’s no damage but I want to call the cops anyways. I was able to snap a couple of pictures of the van as it drove away, it’s one of the electric unmarked ones we see everywhere now that Amazon pulled a hissy fit over unions. I can’t even see the license plate in the photos, though there is one burnt bulb in the center brake light.
Fuck that fucking driver.
I understand that, the changes they are using to justify the obsolescence seem extremely superficial, at best, and don’t seem like anything most people would care about. But if it wasn’t those reasons, it would be another one.
And it may be 3 years old to you, but that means you got the machine when it was 10 years old, because the Dell Optiplex 7010 was released in 2012.
I supported them when I first started at my current job over a decade ago, and by then they were already a couple of years old; I believe those were the first computers I had to “refresh” at that position. (A huge project because each tech supports over 100 computers.)
You’re preaching to the choir on that one. I have a desktop machine that I maintain like the Ship of Theseus, and technically is over 25 years old, though I don’t think any of the actual components in it are much more than 5 years old. I just replace it a bit at a time. The first OS this thing had was Windows 98. Then XP, then 7, then 10, now 11. (You’ll notice I skipped a few there, there were good reasons to.) But everything is assembled by me, of course. You could never do this with a big box computer.
As I am sure you know, Windows 10 will no longer be supported. My old laptop was nearing the end of its life, I bought a refurbished one from Best Buy for less than $300. I still need to buy an external DVD drive and an external back up drive. But the new laptop works very well.
I still have two Atari 2600’s, two Intellivisions, a Virtual Boy, several C-64’s, one +4, and a Northstar Horizon. I understand wanting to keep things that have served you well. But, if you want to continue surfing the web and downloading software, you need to switch to Windows 11.
Well, to be fair, it was manufactured for many years after the first release, so I doubt it was actually ten years old, except in terms of design.
I might add, to give credit to Dell, that this refurbished desktop looked as good as new when it arrived. And when I opened it up to add the SSD and an additional HDD, the inside was absolutely pristine – like it had just been manufactured. And the quiet when I first turned it on … ahh! Love at first sight! 
Wait, you have an actual working Virtual Boy?! Holy crap!
I haven’t seen one since I worked at Toys R Us (guessing '96 or '97) and we had a demo model for people to try out. I played the tennis game a lot though it always gave me a headache after a while.
There can’t be too many of those things floating around because they weren’t very popular.
At least one of my friends, also a console collector, has one. I have the tennis game (I cannot remember the exact title, Mario Clash (think the original Mario Brothers arcade game but in three dimensions. It is a lot of fun), and Warioland (It’s fantastic!). My friend has Teleroboxer. Besides making wonderful use of the 3D, it actually utilizes both sets of controls at once.
Many years, just a couple really. That’s why at my work, which uses exclusively Dell PCs, we have to constantly come up with a new standard model to deploy because they get discontinued after 2-4 years.
So maybe only 10 years old but still.
I agree though that for a big box store, Dell does really well and their refurbished PCs are superb. I recommend them to anyone who wants a budget PC and I’ve bought a couple Dell laptops from their discount store myself. (One for my oldest daughter and one for my wife.)
Other than this Optiplex, I also bought a refurbished Dell Latitude laptop and recommended a Dell Precision laptop to a friend, which was promptly handed over to me to set up. All of them were great computers, but …
The setup is the gotcha with these refurbished things. They come with a basic version of whatever OS they’re licensed for (usually Windows Professional of whatever version) but you have to download and install all the necessary drivers, and you have to do it in exactly the right order – starting with the motherboard chip drivers. Dell refurbished computers can be a great deal but they can also be more work to set up than one might have imagined!
New month of griping:
I got that, too. Except when I click on “learn more” it tells me I need to upgrade ios v15.x except I do not now, nor have I ever owned any apple product.
I am in possession of a work iphone but don’t even have an apple id for that as they manage it & push all necessary apps to it, nor do I use it for anything personal.
For some reason the message chooses to focus on iOS incompatibility first, but then goes on to talk about Windows-related issues, which amount to the fact that the required browser functionality requires at least Windows 10 because the browser developers are no longer making browsers compatible with anything earlier, specifically not for Windows 7 or below.
I assume they’re referencing iOS first because most Windows users have already been cajoled, coerced, threatened, scared, or otherwise “persuaded” to upgrade to the crappy newer versions.
Oh I feel this, I have a short steep driveway on a dead end narrow road but there is a turnaround space where one could easily make a U-turn or a two even three pt turn but no, fucking Amazon prime vans delivering to neighbors regularly use my driveway to makeaturn. Even the garbage trucks can manage it if not they back up the street. Scuffed up bumpers, landscaping run over, burn outs in the drive. I’m fucking sick of it.
The inside of my left elbow was itching a little yesterday. This morning, I woke up to discover that I had scratched it until I broke the skin while sleeping. Also, it still itches.
Plus, the rodents have found a way into my new trashcan. I am not quite sure how. The sides are metal. I put a gallon jug of vinegar on top of the lid to keep it closed. I will have to pick it up and examine it tomorrow.