[QUOTE=DrDeth]
Do we have any evidence that it’s not faked *or *that the dude is a real Marine, not just wearing a uniform?? 
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Yes, just some dude wearing an uniform… and full combat gear, and they also travelled to a convinient middle east location. Sure, could be just an elaborate joke. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Bear_Nenno]
Who throws a puppy overhand, anyway? Seems awkward.
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I’m thinking some sort of compressed air-powered puppy cannon would be most efficient. This being the internet, someone is probably working on it right now.
[QUOTE=Mangetout]
I’m thinking some sort of compressed air-powered puppy cannon would be most efficient. This being the internet, someone is probably working on it right now.
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A protoype is already in production, I give you, the kitten cannon.
[QUOTE=bbs2k]
A protoype is already in production, I give you, the kitten cannon.
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491 ft. Not bad.
[QUOTE=DrDeth]
Do we have any evidence that it’s not faked *or *that the dude is a real Marine, not just wearing a uniform??
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The name Motari is spoken in the video, and there supposedly is a marine named David Motari who looks suspiciously like the guy in the video, and who meets all the other necessary criteria.
[QUOTE=wring]
as for translating your less than coherent response here, you seem to wonder how Darwin awards, where stories of people ending up accidentally dying through stupid actions of their own (which people then laugh at) relate to a story of some one getting injured durng a sports contest (which some people then found amusing). Hmmm. On the one hand, you have injuries resulting in death causing laughter, and on the other, folks getting injured but not dying causing laughter.
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Uh, no. I was specifically responding to the comment that someone injuring herself while diving was funny. Darwins and Stooges and cartoons had fuckall to do with it.
See my response to Miller, below.
[QUOTE=Miller]
You’ve “been there?” Are you using some special value for “cracked on the head?” Because I think most people have taken a solid thump to the noggin at least once in their lives.
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“Been there” means injured while engaged in competitive sports. I’ve broken both ankles and blown out my knee twice while playing basketball. At the time, no one thought it was funny. Today, I have trouble walking downstairs, or negotiating uneven ground. It effects my ability to work. I don’t hike anymore. Needless to say, basketball is a thing of the past. I really fail to see the humor.
I’ve suffered a concussion in a Taekwondo match. I had double vision for days. Nobody laughed when it happened. They were my friends. They were concerned for my welfare.
I crushed my shoulder in an Aikido class. Again, the humor escaped everyone present. I missed weeks of work, all unpaid. I used to have a cannon for an arm. Today, I’m lucky to throw a tennis ball 20 yards. This is funny?
Hey, you want to hear something really hysterical? I sliced a bit of my finger off at work. And caught my hand in a chopsaw. Cracked a few ribs when I slipped off a roof. To this day, I can’t think of it without busting a gut.
Yeah, some yahoo who lights his balls on fire on YouTube trying to impress his girlfriend is funny. And the guy who shot his toe off while proclaiming his firearms expertise is probably funny too. But those guys were showing off. They were saying, in essence, “Look at how cool I am!”
What did the woman who crashed into the diving board do to cause someone to laugh at her? That’s fucked up, man.
When you are 68, you might find falling off a ladder not quite so much of a laugh fest. I’m considerably younger than your father was, and a fall could fuck me up big time. I sincerely do not understand the mindset that defaults to hilarity, when compassion seems to me to be the proper response.
You’re saying that professional athlete’s aren’t up there saying “look at me, ain’t I great”?
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
I sincerely do not understand the mindset that defaults to hilarity, when compassion seems to me to be the proper response.
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For me the dividing line is pretty straight forward. If it was OBVIOUSLY staged and fake (Three Stooges attacking each other with table saws and sledge hammers) it" OK. If it’s a “candid” and nobody was hurt, it’s OK. I draw MY line at the point where someone was actually unjured. As for all your injuries, I can sympathize - I had my ribs bashed and toes broke etc in Tae Kwon Do also. Eventually I rose to some level of mediocrity I guess (?) You were there by your own free choice, knowing the risks. Accidents happen. They are NOT funny but they happen.
[QUOTE=Malthus]
I have no idea. Is there some law against acting like a jacktard while a soldier? Not a snark, I honestly don’t know.
Would it be okay if these guys were just frat boys, uniform-less?
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Well - yes. The Marines are a state-run organization paid for by taxpayers. I’d be pretty pissed if my Congressman pretended to throw a puppy off a cliff too.
On the other hand, a fraternity is a private group. If I saw a member of my fraternity participating in harmless-but-bad-for-our-image jackassery, I would have a right to be pissed - they reflect on me.
If you see it (assuming you aren’t also a member), you have no reason to be pissed off on the organization’s behalf.
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]
Well - yes. The Marines are a state-run organization paid for by taxpayers. I’d be pretty pissed if my Congressman pretended to throw a puppy off a cliff too.
On the other hand, a fraternity is a private group. If I saw a member of my fraternity participating in harmless-but-bad-for-our-image jackassery, I would have a right to be pissed - they reflect on me.
If you see it (assuming you aren’t also a member), you have no reason to be pissed off on the organization’s behalf.
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Yes, but the issue is not whether or not you are “pissed”, but whether the guys involved should do jail time.
If your Congressman throws a pretend puppy, surely the solution is to vote the sucker out, not a nice long spell in the pen.
I accept that there is apparently some military law against soldiers playing the fool like this, I assume for “disgracing the uniform” or some such, as stated by Happy Wanderer, but surely there is none against congresspersons doing the same.
[QUOTE=Wallenstein]
You’re saying that professional athlete’s aren’t up there saying “look at me, ain’t I great”?
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Using real talent and skill to play a sport at a high level isn’t showing off or grandstanding.
I would think that what a veteran soldier has seen would desensitize him to the plight of a small puppy. I have no doubt once you’ve killed a few humans, killing a puppy for fun doesn’t seem as twisted.
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
Uh, no. I was specifically responding to the comment that someone injuring herself while diving was funny. Darwins and Stooges and cartoons had fuckall to do with it.
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Yea, still not getting it, are you?
ok, reading:
Yea, still not getting it.
Glad your friends were sympathetic and all, that’s really swell. Ya know, the time I got second degree burns covering my torso, had blisters a foot long on my back, through a work related accident - yea, it sucked, big time, more pain than I’d wish on anyone. Off work quite a while, showers for the next 6 months or so, hurt. But ya know what? I can still make the story funny. There were funny aspects to it. I laugh at it all the damn time now. Was I laughing at the time? no. Did I later? you bet.
Friend of mine shattered his ankle playing softball, when he slid into a base that was ‘permanent’ (set in concrete, apparently). Ended up with some major apparatus in his ankle, would have never been able to get through metal detectors (this happened some 30 years ago). We laughed about it later, too.
So, you apparently cannot see any humor in any of your personal events, even years later, therefore you cannot abide those who do. Got it. Sucks to be you, I guess.
someone threw up a dedicated website for the video. http://www.puppytoss.com
[QUOTE=TokyoPlayer]
491 ft. Not bad.
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1,391. Your kitten tossing abilities are weak.
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
I sincerely do not understand the mindset that defaults to hilarity, when compassion seems to me to be the proper response.
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Compassion is the most socially acceptable response, but laughter is the best way of dealing with trauma. I can provides cites if you’re skeptical.
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
I sincerely do not understand the mindset that defaults to hilarity, when compassion seems to me to be the proper response.
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One other thing -
about 4 years ago, I came out of my eye doctor’s office w/diagnoses for 3 major eye issues, one needing surgery, one potentially leading to blindness. My SO and I were joking about it that same day, how he’d be able to pretend to take me places 'cause I’d not be able to see it “sure, honey, here we are at Niagra falls (spritz spritz from a mister), feel the water?” "here we are at the Grand (grand grand) Canyon ( canyon canyon). If he’d babied me the rest of the night w/“oh darling dearest, you know I’ll be there for you” stuff, it’d have driven me crazy. Even now, we joke about the cat not suited for helper animal status (I can see him now, polishing his claws while shrugging ‘sure, go ahead, cross the street, what do I care?’)
Doesn’t mean he isn’t (or I"m not) compassionate. Different people have different ways of coping.
I am skilled enough, though that when faced w/folks who have an attitude like yours, I won’t joke to your face about it. But that’s about it.
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
I sincerely do not understand the mindset that defaults to hilarity, when compassion seems to me to be the proper response.
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You seem to be under the impression that humor is a choice. When I saw that photo, my first response was to laugh, and then feel a bit of sympathy for the poor woman. It’s not like I looked at the photo, evaluated the pros and cons of laughing, made a detailed spreadsheet, and then made a conscious choice.
Laughter is an automatic response. Since people have been laughing at other people falling down for I’d bet tens of thousands of years (HA HA! Og fall in tiger trap!), I’m going to guess that there is some sort of evolutionary benefit to it.
You’re passing judgement on someone for inheriting successful genes. I find that fargin’ hilarious.
[QUOTE=Sitnam]
I would think that what a veteran soldier has seen would desensitize him to the plight of a small puppy. I have no doubt once you’ve killed a few humans, killing a puppy for fun doesn’t seem as twisted.
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I know a number of combat veterans and none of them would ever do anything like this. By combat veterans I mean people who have personally blown enemy soldiers into bits. I think they would give these Marines a good beating if they saw them throwing a puppy off of a cliff.
Whatever these guys went through in combat is not an excuse for what they did. There’s most definitely a dividing line between “killing to avoid being killed” or “killing because it’s your job” and “killing for fun” The first two define a soldier, the latter, a psychopath.
1,730 ft Ooh-rah!
Dis ar teh mah kitteh canon. Thar r lotz da liek it, but dis wan iz mine.
Mah kitteh canon iz mah best frend. It mah life. I must mastah it as I mastah mah life.
Wifout me mah kitteh canon iz useles, wifout mah kitteh canon, I r useles.
I must firez mah kitteh canon true. I must shotz straightr then mah emeny hoo iz tryin 2 kill me.
I must shotz him before he shotz me. I’m gonna. Before Ceilin Cat I swearz dis cred.
Mah kitteh canon an mahself r defenderz ov mah country. We r teh masterz ov r emeny. We r teh saviors ov mah life.
So be it, til thar iz no emeny, but piece, an den …
CMC +fnord!
[QUOTE=Argent Towers]
Whatever these guys went through in combat is not an excuse for what they did. There’s most definitely a dividing line between “killing to avoid being killed” or “killing because it’s your job” and “killing for fun” The first two define a soldier, the latter, a psychopath.
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I am intrigued by your black and white world and wish to know more. I have no doubt you believe your moral absolutes would survive a traumatic tour of combat duty.