Martin/Zimmerman: humble opinions and speculation thread

Martin approached Zimmerman/s truck from the back side of the house before he ran away. He went out of his way to do this. This is not something that a person in fear does.

Could be anything. Imagine what you want. Nothing in Zimmerman’s description of Martin inferred he was in fear of him. Martin was described as appearing messed up on drugs.

Yes, striking someone when they’re not looking is a sucker punch.

No, it means he approached from the back side of the houses after first walking there.

Thank you. It’s always nice to know that people care about me.

I haven’t read anyone “else” talk about Martin being afraid of being robbed or mugged or killed. Or being afraid of getting bean’d by a baseball.

Martin made the choice to run away and then come back to confront Zimmerman. What evidence will be presented in court that Martin could not have approached Zimmerman? What evidence will be presented in court that Martin didn’t punch Zimmerman in the face, breaking his nose?

There is no evidence this happened.

No. This 100% did not happen. It is impossible for this to have happened as George says it did. Not unless Martin has magical insta-teleport powers.

I think it’s all GZ. Whatever you think of GZ, he himself doesn’t think of himself as a thug and murderer, and he seems to care a lot about the fact that a good portion of the country does think so, and he hopes that he can convey his true self if he get’s a chance.

It’s not like this interview is out of the blue. Zimmerman tried to contact Martin’s parents, and when he was rebuffed, he insisted on speaking at the hearing so that he could apologize to them then. Now this, and then the View.

I don’t know what O’Mara thinks of it, but I’m pretty sure Zimmerman is the driving force here.

Zimmerman testified this happened.

she said he was next to his house.

Zimmerman has no way of knowing if Martin doubled back. If he testified to that effect, he is speculating, or lying.

I went over this with you in detail. The timeline most certainly fits. You’re making assumptions you cannot prove.

If Martin is standing at the back of the houses it’s not speculation that he got there under his own power.

It is not evidence that he doubled back.

**Magiver ** you seem to be taking “near my father’s house” as “I’m standing on the front porch,” or something and not, “I’m back from the 7-11 and in my father’s neighborhood.”

I mean, is it your contention that Martin walked completely back to his father’s house and then went back for the show-down at the GZ corral?

It is according to Zimmerman’s testimony which has to be disproved.

It is not possible for Zimmerman to know if Martin doubled back. He testified he lost sight of Martin. What Martin did during that time is unknowable by Zimmerman. Zimmerman disproved himself.

He didn’t say he was near his father’s house according to DeeDee. He said he was NEXT to his father’s house. And yes there will always be interpretation of what he meant but NEXT infers he’s very close. Of course, DeeDee doesn’t strike me as someone who accurately recounts what was heard so I’ll give you some latitude. But when you factor in the time frame then either Martin hid for over two minutes or he was next to his father’s house chose to again walk toward Zimmerman.

Either way you have Martin confronting Zimmerman in conversation per both DeeDee and Zimmerman. there was nothing in the conversation that justified his behavior. This is the whole trial. There was nothing in the situation that justified the beating and Zimmerman had no way of knowing when it would stop.

This is a critical question that nobody seems to want to answer. when was Martin going to stop?

No. It. Does. Not. Seriously, you’re just embarrassing yourself now. There is no way it happened the way George claims it happens in the re-enactment and in the 29 Feb interviews with detectives.

OK, he loses him behind the house, he see’s him at the corner of the house and he approaches him. What part of “doubling back” are you questioning?

That’s simply not true. He starts dialing the phone from club house, Martin has already passed him at this point and he loses sight of him and drives to the cut-through. He again see’s Martin at the corner of the house walking toward him. I went through the math of how long it takes to walk and drive the distance.

When he disarmed Zimmerman and shot him in justifiable self defense.

Cite evidence that Zimmerman threatened him because you’re admitting Martin intended to kill him.