I would love that.
300 please. That’s a few hundred, yes?
A few hundred pics of a slightly younger Martin don’t change the facts reported over and over in the media. His status as a black teenager has been shouted from the rooftops. Everyone knows what his age was. Plenty of recent pics of him abound. I’m sure you’ve poured over them.
Other witnesses said they heard a boy too.
Just a few to start you off. I led the horse to water… Now you drink.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20582259,00.html
http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,personsTax:TrayvonMartin,00.html
http://www.pbs.org/pov/blog/docsoup/2012/03/on-pinterest-and-in-documentaries-dont-judge-a-killer-by-an-image/
http://teachingforchange.org/news/TeachingaboutTrayvon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trayvon_Martin.jpg
http://www.vibe.com/article/prosecutor-rules-no-grand-jury-trayvon-martin-case
http://www.inquisitr.com/217478/trayvon-martin-case-wont-go-before-grand-jury-special-prosecutor-angela-corey-confirms/
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/top-stories/168391/the-iconic-photos-of-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-why-you-may-not-see-the-others/
http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2012/03/trayvon.html
http://www.inquisitr.com/219498/al-sharpton-the-hot-topic-when-trayvon-martins-mom-appears-on-bill-oreilly/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/beck-warns-dont-let-radicals-use-trayvon-martins-death-to-push-political-agendas/
http://www.papermasters.com/blog/trayvon-martin/
http://queensofkings.com/trayvon-martin-case-zimmerman-could-be-facing-more-serious-charges/undated-handout-photo-released-by-the-martin-family-public-relations-representative-shows-17-year-old-trayvon-martin/
http://www.northjersey.com/news/national/Fla_to_look_at_self-defense_laws_after_killing_of_Trayvon_Martin.html
http://www.eurweb.com/2012/04/trayvon-zimmerman-update-special-prosecutor-plans-announcement/
http://www.blacktopix.com/?p=124
http://gumbumper.com/2012/04/audio-experts-say-it-was-not-george-zimmerman-crying-for-help-on-trayvon-martin-911-call/
Nonsense. It’s a fact that he was engaged in a call at the time Zimmerman was made his call to the police, and it’s a fact that when you’re on a call you disengage to some degree with your environment. Martin’s “suspicious” behaviour is explained by the solid fact that he was on the fricking phone and behaving like anyone does when they’re walking and talking.
He had a crappy t-mobile phone of some description. His phone and T-mobile Universal 3.5mm hands-free headset were found next to his body. Surely you knew that, though. What are you getting at by asking for this detail? Do you think that his cellphone records are fabrications, and that he wasn’t really on the phone right up until the physical struggle began? Or do you think that Zimmerman somehow overlooked him holding a phone to his head?
I understand that the fact that he was engaged in a call when he supposedly walked up to Zimmerman and dummied him without provocation may cause some cognitive dissonance, because it is difficult to credit that someone would initiate an assault against someone without wrapping up with the girl they were chatting with first… but you can’t just pretend that that’s not exactly what was happening when Zimmerman said he was attacked without provocation - the evidence is clear in this regard.
Trayvon’s call terminating the way it did is a lot easier to understand if you consider the possibility that the confrontation started with Zimmerman laying his hands on Trayvon in an effort to hold him in place, which is something you might expect from someone who lamented “these assholes always get away” only a couple of minutes earlier. It doesn’t make a lick of sense otherwise.
Isn’t that Mary Cutcher in the video? It looks like Cutcher? She’s the blond witness who has “also” said that she didn’t see the actual confrontation. She’s has said that she was in the kitchen during the confrontation. She’s said she heard the crying. A little boy crying. As soon as the gun went off, the crying stopped. Therefore, that told her that the crying was not Zimmerman???
Cutcher has also says that she saw Zimmerman get off Martin’s body, which occured after the gunshot and after Zimmerman had attempted to restrain the prostrate Martin, according to another eyewitness.
If that is Cutcher, she’s already undermined her own credibility and her opinion of the poor performance of Serino isn’t going to help the prosecution’s case.
I have been having a great deal of trouble reconciling the phone record which has been presented as TM’s w/ Dee Dee’s account.
According to her, she was connected to TM’s phone then was disconnected twice and called him back twice WHILE GZ was in the picture.
The phone records show multiple calls, but the time period period would extend for much longer than than what is in accord w/ the NEN call or GZ’s other accounts.
There’s more than one situation which could account for this discrepancy. But most all of those situations involve someone’s account, (or the phone records provided), being dodgy.
I asked because I didn’t know what phone Martin was using. I thought that maybe you did. Oh well.
Why would Martin be holding a “crappy t-mobile phone” with a “hands-free-stereo-wired-earphones” to his head? Isn’t that the reason someone would have hands-free earphones? So they don’t have to hold the phone to their head?
I’ll start clicking on them when I see the rest of the three hundred.
I listened to the interview. This is Witness 18. She lives at 3021 Retreat View Circle. She would have been about 90 feet away from the shooting.
911 Call
http://media2.abcactionnews.com/html/zimmermanevidence/audio/W18_SPD02262012call.wav
SPD Interview
http://media2.abcactionnews.com/html/zimmermanevidence/audio/W18_SPD02262012.wav
Of course her comments about the ‘boy’ are pretty weak, since you can actually hear Trayvon Martin voice in the 7-11 recording and it isn’t a boy’s voice.
You might want to read what Jeralyn wrote about her on July 10th.
He looked a little tweaky and disengaged in the full-length 7-11 video too.
Not if it were done in part for that girl’s benefit.
Sure it does. He knew Zimmerman had been watching Trayvon and had probably called the cops on him. Then he saw Z wandering past the “T”-intersection poking around where he had just been and probably saw Z looking south in his direction. He was on the phone with a girl he wanted to impress so he went over there and confronted the guy. And then attacked him.
The fact he was frustrated about troublemakers always getting away explains why he headed to the T-intersection to see which way Trayvon had gone. It doesn’t translate into trying to ‘capture’ Trayvon himself.
Zimmerman’s recorded phone call, his clear agitation on the phone and his willingness to disregard the 9-1-1 operator’s request to disengage stalking Trayvon Martin is all of the incriminating evidence anyone with at least a 1/4 of a brain needs to determine this person is guilty as sin. The fact that the judge let him out on bail and even let him out on bail after finding that Zimmerman willfully attempted to conceal copious amounts of money that could have been easily used to leave the country in and of it self is offensive and speaks a bias on the part of the judge that should not be overlooked. Many violent offenders are never offered bail and virtually all Black accused violent offenders are never offered bail.
I agree that someone with 1/4 of a brain would be convinced of Zimmerman’s guilt based on the reasons you listed. There is no evidence he ever ‘stalked’ young Mr. Martin. He walked to the “T”-section to see if he could tell where he’d gone. That was the extent of his “stalking”. Trayvon headed south, Zimmerman headed east. No stalking. No chasing.
Some confusing reports have the headphones in Martin’s hoodie pocket, as is a decal off his hoodie, and the iced tea. Looks like Trayvon was planning to rumble. The bag in which the Arizon juice was in is nearby. DeeDee’s statement is dreadful for the prosecution, in that she has Trayvon near his father’s house, and minutes later the confrontation begins, near the T.
Rumble? Was he a Jet or a Shark?
Really? Only a 1/4 of a brain is needed to determine Zimmerman is guilty? How much of a person’s brain is required to understand that a person is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law?
Trayvon was using a bluetooth device. This is why I think Zimmerman thought he was suspicious. I’ve seen people using a bluetooth device from afar only to find out (as I walk closer to them) that they’re not schizophrenic but talking to someone on their bluetooth device. Zimmerman’s delusions were compounded by the weather, the time of day, and, of course, the impulsiveness of his putative ADD diagnosis.
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I think you’re trying with all of your intellectual might to diminish Zimmerman’s culpability and enlarge Trayvon’s. Instead of focusing on the meat and potatoes, you’re making an issue of semantics: Was he a boy? Was he a teenager? Was he a minor? He was all of those things. Despite Zimmerman lying about a great deal of things so far, I find it amazing that you (and the peanut gallery) still maintain his version of the events as correct version.
You should consider watching Zimmerman’s interview with Sean Hannity. He’s a poor-man’s Blagojevich - narcissistic to the bone. Did you read his newly minted website? He’s doing all of this stuff for you, his supporters :rolleyes:. I’m surprised Zimmerman hasn’t make a guest appearance on The View, Good Morning America, and Anderson Cooper’s *360 *yet. This doesn’t sound like a man who is trying to prove his innocence, it’s the desperate act of a emotionally immature adult who needs to be in the middle of the spotlight.
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I haven’t watched it, but - how is this relevant to his being guilty or not guilty of the crime of which he is being accused?
You really need to familiarize yourself with the evidence. Martin was using a wired headset. It is on the property list. You can actually see him talking on it on the 7-11 video. Of course, it would still be less than visible at night with a hoodie up. It is hard to take your opinion seriously when you screw even basic facts.
Dude, I don’t care if you take my opinion seriously or not. ** Trayvon Martin used a bluetooth device**. Whether it’s called a “wired headset” on the property list doesn’t budge me.
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