Because if the guy is scary enough to warrant calling the police, he’s scary enough to TRY AND STOP YOU FROM CALLING THE POLICE. Sure, screaming poses the same risk, but it’s immediate - a bunch of houses are RIGHT THERE.
You mean besides the dead body?
It’s about a quarter of a mile from 1450 Retreat View Circle where Zimmerman first spotted him up through the cut-through where the Martin’s body was.
‘Sucker punched’? Martin was standing right in front of him. How could he possibly be sucker punched? If Martin was going to sucker punch him, it’s too bad he didn’t have the chance to sneak up behind George unseen…oh, wait…
Only if he punches him in the face, breaks his nose, blackens his eyes, and then sits on his chest bashing his head against the ground.
Regards,
Shodan
That doesn’t follow at all. You don’t just call the police on scary people, you call them about suspicious people. And Martin was much more suspicious than he was scary.
Let’s see: screaming is risky, calling the police is risky, drawing a pistol is illegal, running is risky (you’re turning your back, and the other guy is probably faster in this case, being taller and lighter).
So, what risk-free action should Zimmerman have taken, again?
That’s evidence that Zimmerman shot Martin. Any evidence that Zimmerman tried to restrain Martin?
Zimmerman likely couldn’t flee. He was obese, and suffering from sacroillitis, inflammation of the lower joints, for which he was on medication. Besides, even the most nimble of people wouldn’t have had time to flee when someone unexpectedly walks up to you.
Zimmerman had no reason to flee. A normal teen ager does not react to being asked ‘what are you doing’ by trying to kill someone. Martin apparently did.
Regards,
Shodan
I agree. The most likely reason that Trayvon tried to kill George is because he didn’t want any witness who could identify him.
No, it’s not. It’s 850 feet. He didn’t follow him until Martin left the mail box area. That would be 350 feet from there to the start of the fight which is coincidentally the same distance Martin had to travel back from his house to confront Zimmerman.
A sucker punch is an unexpected punch.
Omara has filed a motion asking for Trayvon’s phone records, obviously to determine if it matches the cut and pasted version that’s been seen on the internet. Why such a simple request is so difficult for the prosecutor to provide is open to debate. You show DD’s phone records for the appropriate period, and Trayvon’s. There shouldn’t be a problem if they match. If they don’t match, DD lied, that’s all there is to it.
Why should Omara have to ask the Prosecutor. Can’t the defense go directly to any police agency and request they gather them from the phone company?
For the second time, I’m asking you to cite this. The defense received Martin’s phone records a while ago, so they are wasting the court’s time if this motion actually exists.
Because TM didn’t want there to be any witnesses to TM doing what exactly?
What do you believe TM was doing which justified murder in TM’s mind?
What was TM trying to cover up?
Imho, the idea sounds most bizarre rather than “most likely”.
Obviously, ymmv.
With his bare hands, no less. I wonder did he unfurl his claws and bare his fangs before he lunged. Oops, my bad, humans don’t have claws or fangs.
Yes, with his bare hands. We have the evidence of what he did with them. You can do a lot of damage after a sucker punch.
I’ve experienced exactly what Zimmerman experienced from punks. The only difference is that the sucker punch didn’t land as intended and I was able to deal with it with minimal personal injury.
How hard is it to type" trayvon martin, phone records"? Cite
Sanford police and Florida Department of Law Enforcement employees had limited success finding out what was on the phone because they were “locked out,” the consequence of someone trying repeatedly without the proper password or PIN to gain access to its data.
The state then shipped the phone to a law-enforcement agency in California for more analysis, O’Mara wrote in his new motion, then sent it to a New Jersey company, which successfully unlocked the data in its flash memory, including GPS information that showed its changing locations.
What it found has not been made public.
“It shows you within 10 feet where the phone is,” O’Mara told the Orlando Sentinel.
De la Rionda provided those new findings to defense attorneys Jan. 18, O’Mara wrote, but with a gaping hole.
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“While the analysis includes GPS locating records for Mr. Martin’s phone for all of the time he was in the Sanford area, specifically absent is any such data from February 26, 2012, the date of the event,” O’Mara wrote.**
What was TM doing? Beating the fuck out Zimmerman. We don’t know what was going on in his mind but his actions were that of a violent person intent on doing great harm. So I’m going with violent rage.
Can a person do a lot of damage with his bare hands but not damage them in the process?
Is it possible to grab the sides of a person’s head (not by the hair, but by the actual head) and slam that person’s head on concrete hard and long enough to render that person semi-conscious, but NOT take away any substantial scrapes or bruises your hands in the process?
Is it possible to do all of this and not take away a single drop of DNA?
I wonder how in the world the defense will be able to explain all of this.
Yes, no explanation beyond the physical evidence is needed. This isn’t a TV crime show where every blade of grass was examined. The DNA argument presupposes that they went looking for it in the first place. There is sufficient evidence to show that Martin was on top of Zimmerman assaulting him.
Monstro, you appear to be looking for reasons to convict Zimmerman instead of looking at the evidence available. There needs to be some definitive evidence like a video that shows Zimmerman assaulting Martin first or pulling a gun on him from the outset. It could have happened this way but so could a lot of other scenarios. I don’t understand why people ignore the fact that Martin moved from an unseen location near his house to where Zimmerman was over a distance of 300 feet. Martin goes out of his way to confront Zimmerman. When you combine this with the beating there is something going on in Martin’s head and it’s violent.
How hard it is to just provide a damn cite the first time it was asked for?
On Tuesday, the judge will be ruling on all the recent motions. In keeping with the defense counsel’s track record since this trial began, I expect them to hear nothing but “denied”, “denied”, “denied”. Their latest claim–that the state has withheld phone data from them–smacks of the same kind of precious bullshit they used the last time they falsely accused the state of withholding evidence. Just like last time, this accusation will go no where.
Claims like this make for good copy in the press, and good copy is the only card the defense has to play right now. They have nothing to lose, as O’Mara’s reputation is pretty much sewage. Tall hat, no cattle.