More of a, try not to be such a pussy position. He put himself into this position when he got out of his truck to follow Martin. I don’t see anyting in this whole mess that tells me he was even close to a near death situation. He got into an altercation that was his own fucking making. And he pulled out a gun to end it. Ergo … pussy.
ETA: and spare me the “its not illegal to get out of a truck with a gun,” bullshit too.
Ah yes. He should act tougher like calling other people pussies on the internet.
At least I’m not shooting any body.
According to Florida law, yes, he explicitly does.
The investigator also mentioned Zimmerman claimed he went to look at a street sign. His neighborhood only has three named streets. I find it very hard to believe he wouldn’t know the name of those streets. I can believe he didn’t know the address. It will depend upon the exact wording of his statement.
Give me more details then. I haven’t seen anything that supports your position.
I’m glad that it’s now been confirmed Zimmerman asserted this piece of ridiculousness, because up until today, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this issue.
Well now I’m officially disagreeing with you, but you’re probably right to the extent use of cyanoacrylates with animals given the fur and cleanliness issues.
Here’s a 2002 report from the Emergency Medicine Journal indicating no additional dressing is needed unless it’s likely to be picked at, for instance by a very young child.
Here’s an article quoting a New England Journal of Medicine article indicating that cyanoacrylates act as its own dressing. Singer, A.J., Hollander, J.E., & Quinn, J.V. (1997). Evaluation and management of traumatic lacerations. The New England Journal of Medicine, 33, 1142-1148.
Here’s an article from a wound care journal for nurses indicating cyanoacrylate dressings are more useful since gauze and bandaging are not required: Abstract: Evaluation of a Cyanoacrylate Dressing to Treat Skin Tears in the Acute Care Population (2010 WOCN/WCET Joint Conference (June 12-16, 2010))
Last, but, not least, here’s a portion of a Google book, Biomaterials for Clinical Applications indicating no other dressing is needed (if link doesn’t work, it’s at p. 229): Biomaterials for Clinical Applications - Sujata K. Bhatia - Google Books
That is about what I remember. I’m bummed my recording didn’t work. Here is what the Sentinel says:
I was rather amused by Gilbreath’s answer to the question about the screaming on the recording where he actually mentioned the Orlando Sentinel. He also mentioned the FBI. It is pretty obvious that the prosecutor was unprepared about O’Mara’s questions about the probable cause affidavit.
Actually, as a vet, maybe you wouldn’t mind giving the thread a brief overview of how wounds should be treated, start to finish. I for one would appreciate a primer, since my approach is “splash it with rubbing alcohol and put a Band-Aid on it.”
As a medical professional, what would you expect to be done by EMTs at the scene?
Sorry about that. Here’s the first missing article: http://m.emj.bmj.com/content/19/5/382.full
Here’s the second: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FSS/is_2_9/ai_n18609883/pg_2/?tag=content;col1
It only has been cited in these Zimmerman threads a few dozen times.
Section 776.041 Subsection 2(a)
Apart from which, the prosecution during today’s hearings testified, under oath, that they have no evidence on who started the fight.
They also said that they have evidence in conflict with his statement. If we have verified lies about him going back to his truck, and about the ridiculous street sign excuse, then isn’t his whole story in doubt? How can we take anything he says with any credibility if his story has been proven to contain lies? If everything he did was on the up and up, then why lie to the police?
“During further questioning by O’Mara, Gilbreath admitted that the state has no evidence who started the fight. There is also no evidence that Zimmerman didn’t walk back to his car after chasing Martin on foot, as the defendant has claimed.”
No.
Dale Gilbreath testified that he was unaware of evidence on who started the fight.
That doesn’t mean other investigators are not aware of other evidence.
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"Defense Attorney: Do you have evidence that contradicts any of Mr Zimmerman’s statements to police?
Investigator: Yes"
OK even if we eliminate the going back to the truck thing from my post, the rest stands.
Can you refute what I quoted here?
Good thing Zimmerman didn’t have a broken leg, or you with the face would say he should have been shot.
Come to think of it, maybe she would anyway.
Regards,
Shodan
Okay, I can concede that depending on the wound and its location, this particular product might not require any secondary dressing.
But I still think none of this applies to Zimmerman’s situation.
From the article: http://m.jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-04-20/story/george-zimmerman-granted-150000-bond-apologizes-trayvon-martins-family
“During further questioning by O’Mara, Gilbreath admitted that the state has no evidence who started the fight. There is also no evidence that Zimmerman didn’t walk back to his car after chasing Martin on foot, as the defendant has claimed.”
“Refute”? That’s what was said. What’s there to refute?
But you have no idea what evidence they have, how tenuous or strong it is and how much of Zimmerman’s statements are contradicted. All you managed to bring up so far is Zimmerman getting out to look at street sign. That’s really relevant to the case, isn’t it?