Stark’s armor was running out of energy. There was a brief line to that effect.
[spoiler] Jarvis had already warned him that his power sources were nearly drained - the effort drained what he had remaining.
I was really expecting them to re-use the ‘400 percent power’ bit from the fight with Thor during the battle
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…Not to sound snarky but… you know Thanos existed before the Infinity Gauntlet story right? Like for years and had multiple run-ins with the Avengers.
I actually think they will adapt the Infinity Gauntlet story to work with just the Avengers. No Silver Surfer, no Adam Warlock, no cosmic entities, no other heroes. Just the basics of the Gauntlet being used by Thanos to kill off half the universe.
I expected that too. That was the other nugget that they dropped but never picked up again (the other being Hulk not being able to lift the hammer–I assumed it would come up later–either Hulk being deemed worthy of it or another character (Cap) being worthy.
But they explicitly state that it is, if I recall correctly.
This was my one expectation going in. Now I don’t know what to think!
I would imagine real nukes don’t have a timer. Someone needs to flip a switch to detonate it, right?
Did they? I’ll have to watch it again. In which case,
Iron Man probably gave it a push, so it arrived at the portal more quickly than it would have otherwise, and was at the alien floaty rock thing at just the right time. Because he’s a genius and would have thought of that and planned the timing just right.
Regarding issues with realism … I had a small moment of “well that’s ridiculous” in this movie, when an ostensibly “normal” character got thrown through a plate glass window and seemed pretty much unaffected.
Then I remembered that there was a Hulk, two gods, and a man who took some steroids and was thus able to survive being frozen in pack ice for 70-ish years in the film as well and I got back to enjoying it.
Yeah, he’s sorta immortal right? I don’t know how long he’s existed but apparently you could see the Infinity Gauntlet in Thor when they were walking in Odin’s treasure room. Though that doesn’t make sense either, since Thanos was the one who brought the gems together in a gauntlet. But either way, I’m excited about Avengers 2
If you’re thinking of the same scene I am, he was doing it deliberately and so was able to control his impact, and he led with his feet. Yeah, he’d probably still be picking shards out of his arms, but in a battle of this scope, an injury like that would be close to inconsequential.
And I’ve reported 203 and 210 for spoilers-- I don’t think we’ve been talking about that character outside the boxes.
When he found out the missle was launched, Tony directed Jarvis to divert all power to thrusters. He flew extra fast, caught up to the missle, and it looked like he was boosting its speed. Right as he passed over the heads of Thor and Cap, Tony said “Jarvis, save the rest for the turn.” He then angled upwards towards the portal with a boost of power, flew through it. My WAG is that the suit just ran out of juice, hence everything shutting down. It took a bit for his personal arc reactor to come back on line. This is, of course, all fan-wankery 
At this point, do we really need spoiler boxes? If someone hasn’t seen the movie yet, can we just politely ask them to bugger off, so we can discuss it openly?
I guess I sort of accept Miller’s explanation for my question.
Another minor criticism, which I’ll spoiler just to be safe:
[spoiler]I loved Iron Man, as always, because RDJ is just playing himself, and he’s hilarious. And The Hulk was amazing–the actor managed to convey the character’s emotional tension in a way I’d never seen done before, and for the first time, I bought the character viscerally.
But Thor and Captain America just didn’t do it for me. Granted, I haven’t seen the origin stories for either, but I kinda figure I shouldn’t have to: the characters should stand on their own. Captain America seemed to have good enough lines, some real poignancy about not catching references, punching the bags off the wall, etc. It may just be that the actor didn’t convey enough of that character’s “Man out of Time” schtick to convince me of his central tension.
And Thor? Meh: he came across as a prettyboy with hifalutin ethics. It seems to me that he needed some sort of clear flaw. The one that seemed most obvious to me is that he should have agreed on some basic level with Loki: he IS a helluva lot tougher than humanity, and it would’ve been great if, when he let his guard down, it was clear that he thinks of humans as children, worth protecting but not all that worthy of respect. As it was, I just didn’t see much that was compelling about him.
The superheroes in the movie are three innately superstrong fighters and one superstrong fighter in armor. Without some clear character differences, they blend together–and Thor and Captain America were both just pretty bland fighter-types with funnylooking boomerangs. I would’ve preferred better characterization on both of them, either from the actors or from the script, or both.[/spoiler]
Interesting note: in the trivia for the film at IMDB, they mention several scenes - like 45 minutes worth - that ended up on the cutting room floor. Most of those scenes were precisely what you’re looking for about Cap not quite getting things in the 2000’s. Apparently, you’ll need to get the Blu-Ray when it comes out if you want to be fulfilled.
Hmm, arguably what you wanted from Thor in this movie was handled in his solo movie. The whole reason he’s sent to earth (powerless) is to learn humility.
You could say his flaw was that no matter what, he never really gave up on his brother (I guess that is true in the comics as well).
Apparently they filmed more “man out of time” stuff for Cap, but they cut it because, that’s not what the movie was about. I think the punching bag frustration, the “Isn’t the flag a little… old fashioned for today,” and the “I get that reference!” bits were enough peppering of that idea. Anymore and it would have stolen too much focus. I also think the line “There’s only one God and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t dress like that.” was amazing. Of course Cap is going to react that way being told someone is “a god.”
Although I do think they missed a great moment by not having Cap comment or react to Iron Man’s attempted sacrifice at the end being similar to his own in his movie.
Anyone else find it amusing that they had the “Isn’t the flag a little old fashioned” lines just before they jumped into Germany?
Hell, by now it’s more like the SDMB Nerd Battalion.
Perhaps, but we should at least tell them to bugger off before we open up with the spoilers.
Thor can’t think of humans as inherently inferior, since the whole reason he’s still involved with Earth at all is that he’s fallen in love with a human. She’s briefly mentioned in this film, when Fury reassures Thor that as soon as the fighting started she was relocated to an out-of-the-way and hopefully safe place.
And we don’t see as much of Captain America as the man out of time, because for most of the movie, we’re seeing him in his element. There’s even a scene that highlights this, when they first land on the carrier and one of the other characters says that “all this”, meaning the technology, must seem pretty strange to him, and Cap replies that it actually all seems pretty familiar (implicitly because it’s all military doings). And of course the fighting is straightforward: You’ve got Us, and you’ve got Them, and you’ve got the innocent bystanders. That hasn’t changed.
Right - CA is perfect in his role as a Squad Commander/etc - he is the one person most capable of getting them fighting together as a unit and coordinating a battle plan. None of the others has ever had to work within the confines of a group or with others at all - its always been only them.
I very much liked Hawkeye’s quiver. The thumb controls on the bow changing the load on the arrows was a very nice touch. Seemed like how I would do it if I had a titanic special ops budget to spend on outfitting the world’s best archer to be extra lethal.
Changing loadouts on the was very cool.