Thanks for clearing that up.
What do you want, names? How about my country starts cracking down on the violent, conspiracy preaching, white nationalist, crowd funders like Stefan Molyneux, Lauren Southern, Faith Goldy, and Gavin McInnes.
We don’t allow Islamic extremists to freely preach their garbage, for good reason, but we allow these “white genociders” a free pass? Gavin started his own international alt-right gang for fucks sake! Lauren Southern flew to Europe to DROWN AFRICAN MIGRANTS STRANDED AT SEA!
Uff da, the paranoia. :rolleyes: That would be an incredible investment of time (imagine getting those payroll invoices approved again and again)…to what end?
We just litigated this a few days ago. Please eradicate your ignorance: https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21527637&postcount=44
Answering this for myself I’d say there’s a reason “snuff” films were a thing long before the interwebs. I think decent people are only decent because they have chosen to strengthen their virtuous nature and let the wicked half wither. That’s what being a ‘good’ person is. It’s not that wicked people are fundamentally different from anyone else, it’s that they prefer to see to their own drives preferentially to the needs of other people. Which brings us back to ‘good’ people. Good people still have the same drives as the wicked, they just neglect them. Snuff and abuse porn scratch an ignored itch, by proxy. Whether or not you scratch, well, that’s where you need to be sure you have a tight grip on who you are. Videos like this, the deed is already done, right? And it’s not like anyone commissioned it. So it’s just there, right? Scratch? Don’t scratch?
The sign didn’t start as a troll. It is cryptofascists. The entire point of cryptofascism is to hide fascism in the mundane. You do it in a way to create plausible deniability. Claiming it is just “trolling” is a part of that.
You have to understand the way cryptofascism spreads. It presents itself as being fake, so that initially disaffected teens will do it for the lulz and trolling. But then they use that to get them over to their side. People hate them for their “trolling” but these fascists over here conveniently still accept them. And maybe their views aren’t as bad as they seem. And, anyways, I don’t really believe all of it…
The movement isn’t about getting people to rationally choose fascism. That can’t work because of all the messaging against it. They have to use underhanded ways to recruit.
As for this guy, he was definitely not using it to mean “OK.” He wasn’t playing a casual game of “made you look.” So the only meaning left is the fascist one.
LOL, when were you playing nice with me? I apologize: apparently I somehow missed all this niceness.
Yes, you were wrong. I can see how you could take it that way, but my intent was honestly to try to acknowledge that I see what happened and am not trying to pretend it didn’t happen, like my “red pill”, alt-right, prepper cousin seems to be doing. That’s it.
:eek: Jesus. That’s…seriously fucked up. Has anyone filed a lawsuit or something about this? Do they at least also air Rachel Maddow or something? (Not that there’s any moral or empirical equivalence between them.) If he gets a clear field with no opposition, that was a blown opportunity by the Obama administration not to do something about it. It makes me wonder if Bill Maher is right that Democrats play too nice.
So, they aren’t actually into white power, they just want people to think they are into white power. Assuming this is true (which seems unlikely at this point), that makes what difference when we have it happening from inside the White House? What possible difference does this parsing make?
If someone wants people to think he’s a white supremacist, then he actually is one no matter how much he dances around the words.
A kid hits Anning with an egg. (He–of course–reacted calmly and with class.)
A crowd-funding page was subsequently set up with the stated aim of raising money to pay the kid’s legal fees, and to buy more eggs.
I don’t think Anning is well liked. (And whatever his views this was a particularly shitty time to publicly express them.)
After all these years Guin, I note your gigantic ego still has you thinking you’re a self appointed arbiter of taste on behalf of everyone else.
Someone who wants people to think they support the white power movement is politically equivalent to someone who supports the white power movement.
And anyone is an “alt-righty” is just too chickenshit to label themselves as a racist, even though that’s what they are.
Agreed.
You don’t have to comment. You could just shut the fuck up and not say anything. That’s one of your options, but instead you choose to criticize outrage in a situation in which outrage is appropriate.
I saw part of the video, on purpose. I didn’t get very far into it. Reality is tamer and worse than movie depictions.
This person had no justification, real or imagined, that would allow these acts. I also want him to suffer greatly, in silence. He has had enough of a platform already.
I am greatly saddened by what happened to the victims. Is there anything yet like a legitemate fund for any children who have lost parents? I have sometimes contributed to need in the USA, but not New Zealand.
OK, I read the manifesto. Well, skimmed it. Not pleasant but very educational. I learned something important, something to be aware of as I try to counter the anti-immigration message.
The public party line about immigrants bringing crime and drugs is a lie. AND THEY KNOW IT IS A LIE, it’s just a lie they have to spout in order to justify their racist public rhetoric and policies.
The Hispanic immigrants migrating to North America and the Islamic immigrants migrating to Europe have several commonalities aside from skin color. They tend to be very religious. They are very family oriented. They tend to have large families and women are likely to stay home and be wives and mothers.
This presents a couple of problems for the alt-righters.
- These groups currently are having way more kids than people of European descent. This is changing the demographic balance.
- These groups are embodying values that they feel that people of European descent have lost. They blame this on Western liberalism and the emphasis of individual happiness over societal good.
They fear that the combination of these factors is going to make the immigrant culture the dominant social force if it isn’t stopped with drastic measures.
This is why the liberals are the enemy. This is why they “hate America”. Because they constantly push for policies that benefit individuals and place personal happiness and fulfillment above societal convention.
Plus, the liberal globalists are letting in all these immigrants because Americans/Europeans are too lazy to do hard work and don’t have enough babies because of all that access to birth control. The biggest enemy is those uppity liberal women who work, go to school and turn them down for dates - ( this is the nexus with the incel movement).
This is why they feel that immigrants are invaders looking to co-opt the culture of this country. Not because they think they are bad people, it because they know they aren’t.
All that was laid out in the manifesto.
And whenever you someone refer to an “invasion” of immigrants, they are pandering to the nationalists.
Milo banned from Australia after spewing about “extremist Leftism and barbaric, alien religious cultures”.
Oh yes. We even have a word for the whole thing here : Le Grand Remplacement. It gets airplay with various amounts of conspiracy theories sprinkled in, but the gist is always that “if nothing is done, Soon™ white christian men will be a minority in “their own” country ; and that is what The Globalist Elites (hint, hint) want”. And since the proponents of these theories know *intimately *how minorities get treated, they’re pretty scared of catching that flip side.
In the US you’ll find echoes of this in slogans like “multiculturalism is code for white genocide”, shit like that.
Nothing to celebrate IMO, even if he is a shitbag.
Why, exactly? Is it because that makes it more likely that he’ll keep stinking up the place in the US?