True, trump wasnt convicted in the Senate, if was the Superior Court of New York.
Oops, it looks like I can’t read. Thank you for correcting me. The Impeachment trial for Clinton was while he was in office, so that’s one complaint I messed up.
The court admission also happened while he was still in office. His license was suspended on Jan.19, 2001.
Stop conflating issues. I was discussing impeachment and the claim no President from either party can now be convicted of it. Not legal proceedings after he left office.
Our future Attn General might have done some bad stuff. I thought the guy was squeaky clean? Just kidding.
Senate Republicans are hoping Trump doesn’t make them “walk the plank.”
Senate Republicans deliver a message to Trump: Gaetz isn’t confirmable - POLITICO
Numerous Republican lawmakers told Donald Trump and his team that they believe his pick to be attorney general, controversial Rep. Matt Gaetz, has little chance of being confirmed, according to multiple Senate Republican and people around Trump. And they’re privately hoping Trump doesn’t make them walk the plank.
I have a theory that a considerable amount of Trump’s “power” over Senate Republicans is predicated on the idea that nobody is going to have the nerve backbone to stand up to him in any meaningful way. That is, he isn’t expecting more than one or two to stand in his way and he feels he can just bulldoze those over with bluster and threats.
If he tries to make them “walk the plank,” I suspect he’ll find that the ones who are willing will be too many for him to make an example of and it won’t work.
Remember, approx. 1/3rd of the Senate Republicans won’t be up for re-election until 2030 (the ones elected this year), so they don’t have as much to fear. That’s what, 10-15 of them? Some others (like McConnell) are planning or retiring, anyway, so he can’t hurt those, either. It only takes 4 or 5 to vote down anything Trump proposes.
Sure, it’s easy to use the threat of being primaried on House members, they are up for re-election every two years. It’s harder to make that stick on Senators. And, even in the House, if Trump’s takeover attempt of the US Government shows signs of faltering, he’s likely to lose support there as those critters are likely to begin to fear a Big Blue Wave in 2026.
No, this is a big showdown, and I am grateful for the Republican Senators willing to stand up.
I don’t think they understand he WANTS to make them. It’s part of his revenge campaign.
They haven’t done shit yet. I’ll believe that more than 2-3 of them will refuse to swallow the Gaetz sandwich when I see it.
Best case scenario they draw the line at Gaetz and then confirm Gabbard, Hegseth, and RFK Jr.
So instead of a child predator and drug addict at DOJ, an anti-vax nutjob at HHS, a sexual abuser at DOD, and a Russian asset as DNI, we just have the last 3.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand he’s out:
It’s pretty obvious (to me, anyway) that the House report contains enough damaging evidence to derail his confirmation. And enough Senators would demand the report so it would have to be given to the Senate.
So will we American citizens ever know what’s in the report? Inquiring minds want to know, dammit!
He was already a dead man walking. Per the article, five GOP senators were already on the record (and had communicated this to Trump’s team) that they would not be voting to confirm Gaetz and that there was about a snowball’s chance in hell that they could be persuaded otherwise.
Gaetz could only afford to lose three Republican votes, and that’s assuming no additional defections.
UPDATE: A Florida newspaper has acquired the unpublished House ethics report on Gaetz.
They found that he was guilty as sin.
There is substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz paid women for sex, and had others pay women for sex on his behalf. The Committee heard testimony from over half a dozen witnesses who attended parties, events, and trips with Representative Gaetz from 2017-2020. Nearly every young woman that the Committee interviewed confirmed that she was paid for sex by, or on behalf of, Representative Gaetz…
There is substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz engaged in sexual activity with a 17-year-old girl. The Committee received credible testimony from Victim A herself, as well as multiple individuals corroborating the allegation. Several of those witnesses have also testified under oath before a federal grand jury and in a civil litigation…
There is substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz used cocaine, ecstasy, and marijuana. At least two women saw Representative Gaetz using cocaine and ecstasy at different events. Even more women understood him to regularly be using ecstasy. There is also ample evidence that Representative Gaetz purchased and used marijuana; he appears to have set up a pseudonymous e-mail account from his House office in the Capitol complex for the purpose of purchasing marijuana…
There is substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz received impermissible gifts in connection with his travel to the Bahamas in September 2018. Specifically, Representative Gaetz accepted travel via a private plane and other travel costs…
The Committee found substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz used the power of his office to assist a woman with whom he was engaged in a sexual relationship in obtaining an expedited passport…
The Committee found substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz engaged in obstructive conduct with respect to the Committee’s investigation…
Based on the above, the Committee determined there is substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz violated House Rules and other standards of conduct prohibiting prostitution, statutory rape, illicit drug use, impermissible gifts, special favors or privileges, and obstruction of Congress.
What a prince of a guy! Too bad he dropped out before being confirmed – he would have been a perfect match in this gang of hoodlums.
Sounds like Madison Cawthorn wasn’t too far off with his reports of cocaine orgies.
Gaetz walked so Trump could run.
(Well, you know, for a certain definition of “run” that does not actually involve moving.)
The way a spray tan will run with too much flop sweat?
I don’t think anyone is really shocked to learn that there was a mound of evidence showing Matt’s guilt.
Other people were paying for Gaetz to have sex with women, some minors? Is everyone on the right a complete douche canoe?
The House doesnt get to decide if anyone is “guilty” of a crime like that. What they found was-substantial evidence.
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Oh well that’s OK then.
Yes. They are.