[QUOTE=jsgoddess]
Yeah.
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Oops. I was looking at this.
[QUOTE=Lib]
You could have saved a lot of time on both our parts if you had just gone ahead and anticipated everything you might need to say and said it all at one time.
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My bad.
Well, you were right enough. It takes a lot of balls to tell somebody they should have covered every possible angle and potential objection in one post, and then proceed to post four… excuse me… five times.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
Well, you were right enough. It takes a lot of balls to tell somebody they should have covered every possible angle and potential objection in one post, and then proceed to post four… excuse me… five times.
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Only because he was responding to new crap you kept posting. You, sir, are dishonest, and a professional victim.
The fact that the cat was rambunctious and territorial is not one insignficant aspect that you couldn’t possibly have foreseen as important, it was a good reason for getting rid of the cat that FEW people would have even argued with. Personally, I don’t find it very truthful, it feels like it was just thrown in as a weak justification after everyone started piling on.
Now, there’s a real laugher! 
Your finding notwithstanding, not everyone piled on. In fact, quite many, if not most, posts have been very supportive. That makes you a liar outright, so you really should just shut up.
[QUOTE=brownie55]
Only because he was responding to new crap you kept posting.
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Unlike my responses, eh?
Then together we comprise a victim and an idiot.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
Fortuitous timing for you two. Ten minutes earlier, it wouldn’t have been there.
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What does this mean?
[QUOTE=Beaucarnea]
What does this mean?
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Damned if I know, other than suggesting that Lib’s sabbatical hasn’t changed him much.
[QUOTE=Caridwen]
Are you serious? You mean your last post that was complete with CAPS, bolding, lists and a timeline of when people posted?
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One may argue that it was a waste of my time, but I would argue it wasn’t any more a waste of “everyone’s” time than anything else posted on this board. I would actually say it wasn’t a waste of my time either, but that’s because I’ve been home sick the past two days and really don’t have much else on my plate, so it was as useful an expenditure as any.
I will sincerely apologize to anyone who felt that my post was a waste of their time, with the exception of Liberal who obviously didn’t read it.
And I still don’t see where I attacked his daughter. Him, absolutely. I’ll full cop to that. His daughter’s actions, you bet. But with the exception of my last post, I haven’t attacked her directly. And even that was meant as an example of how a direct attack (by me) would look, since he seems to have some odd ideas about what form it may take. Ooh, wait- with the exception of the “apples not falling far from the tree” thing, but I was intending that as a slap at the odd logic that comes from cigarettes = okay, cat =/ okay that pretty closely mimics some of the convoluted thinking Dad has displayed over the years.
Please (and again, I mean this most sincerely) point out where I directly attacked his daughter, and I’ll happily retract my statement. Not to say I won’t qualify it, but I’ll happily retract it.
For the record, I’m female.
I shouldn’t have taken the bait and posted again in the original thread, but when I posted the second time I wasn’t even arguing about the daughter/cat thing - Liberal had snarkily posted “wrong on both counts” with no further words and I wanted clarification, as I was repeating things he himself had posted. “Please explain how I was wrong” and boom - Pit thread. It must be a tight rope you’re walking on Liberal, ouch.
[QUOTE=Samm]
The fact that the cat was rambunctious and territorial is not one insignficant aspect that you couldn’t possibly have foreseen as important, it was a good reason for getting rid of the cat that FEW people would have even argued with. Personally, I don’t find it very truthful, it feels like it was just thrown in as a weak justification after everyone started piling on.
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I definitely got the same feeling Samm.
[QUOTE=Beaucarnea]
The OP’s daughter is just one of many people who have the space and resources to care for a pet, and choose not to.
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I have exactly as many pets as I have time and money to care for, and acquaintences should not rely on me to take responsibility for thier poor judgement.
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Everyone has limited resources, whether the resources be time and money, or living space, or whatever, and everyone has constraints on their resources, such as family situtaion, medical concerns, etc.
Who are you to determine that the OP’s daughter has “the space and resources to care for a pet, and chooses not to?”
You’ve made the same decision–to have as many pets as you can care for–as the daughter has, based on, you know, her own resources. You don’t know anything about her, other than what Liberal has posted, so how can you say she does have the resources? She determined that she does not, so there it is.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
Now, there’s a real laugher! Your finding notwithstanding, not everyone piled on. In fact, quite many, if not most, posts have been very supportive. That makes you a liar outright, so you really should just shut up.
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Why do you always need to resort to name calling? Can’t you get your point across without putting anyone who says anything you don’t like down?
[QUOTE=Liberal]
I don’t have any beef with people who say that they would have made a different decision. My only beef is with people who have condemned us or my daughter. And Internet trolls who can’t find anything better to do than examine posts under a microscope looking for god knows what.
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Questioning something (in my post in the OP) = condemning? You really are too sensitive to be on the internet.
[QUOTE=Boscibo]
Why do you always need to resort to name calling? Can’t you get your point across without putting anyone who says anything you don’t like down?
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God, you’re stupid. I’m honestly glad you’re not on my side. He called me a liar, and I called him a liar back. You said nothing about him, natch. Would you mind at this point just taking your head out of my ass? You’ve surely made whatever point you’re trying to make by now, haven’t you?
[QUOTE=Carol Stream]
Everyone has limited resources, whether the resources be time and money, or living space, or whatever, and everyone has constraints on their resources, such as family situtaion, medical concerns, etc.
Who are you to determine that the OP’s daughter has “the space and resources to care for a pet, and chooses not to?”
You’ve made the same decision–to have as many pets as you can care for–as the daughter has, based on, you know, her own resources. You don’t know anything about her, other than what Liberal has posted, so how can you say she does have the resources? She determined that she does not, so there it is.
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Who am I? I’m the chick that can do math. A month’s worth of cancer sticks is about $30.00. A 20 pound bag of cat chow is ten bucks.
But by and large I agree with her choice. A pet that will be neglected when a newborn joins the household should have been given a new home. Maybe she didn’t try hard enough to find someone else to care for the cat. Maybe having a smoke is more important than caring for her pet. But ultimately the animal shelter is a better choice than dumping the family pet beside the road.
Here is the thing- Liberal took the opportunity to crap in a happy MPSIMS thread. Then chose to grandstand in the Pit. He gave quite a bit of personal information in order to justify his negative action, thus opening up this dialog. I, as a member of this board, have the same right to counter and argue as anyone else.
Would you like to justify your presence in this argument? Wait, I know you. You’re the guy who specializes in drive bys. Punk.
Sorry I’ll try to be clearer, I wasn’t talking so much about the attack on his daughter. I was talking about this manifesto that was a* partial * reply.
[QUOTE=bobkitty]
I’ve only gpt time for a partial reply.. I’ll be back later for the rest of it.
And yet you yourself didn’t follow her ruling, which is why I felt it needed another posting.
Look, it comes down to this, and it’s very, very basic.
My point is that your daughter’s spotless reputation could have remained untarnished, and this whole thing reduced to “wow, that situation utterly sucks,” if you had done one of a couple of things:
But I want to make sure, since you’ve always been someone to whom attention to minute details is important, that I provide information to support my theory. And so..
Or perhaps you were busy elsewhere. Let’s look, shall we?
Your original post in the MPSIMs thread was at 4:14pm on the 1st. Bobisco replied at 4:43; Lynn ruled at 6:02.
You came back into the thread at 1:28AM on the 2nd, after Lynn’s ruling, and posted what I referred to as bait, despite your apparent aversion to all things that do not follow mod rule. Why do I refer to it as bait? Because it was quite clear that Lynn suggested taking the topic elsewhere, yet you chose not to. Then you proceeded to post twenty-three times in the hours between 1 and 3AM, 7:30 and 10:30AM, 1:30 and 3:30PM, 7 and 9PM, and beginning at 5:30AM on the 3rd through to 7:42AM when you posted this thread.
Now, Boscibo’s request for clarification in MPSIMs came at around noon. So, if we were to give you the benefit of the doubt, we’ll focus on the time you spent on-line between noon on the 2nd and 7:43AM on the 3rd. And if we do so, we’ll see that you posted 15 times, and had a total of (rounding here) six hours during which you posted (now, I’ll grant that you may or may not have been on-line for those entire six hours, but to say that you were off that entire time doing other things is clearly a lie).
No, the shitter is the one who continues the fight after a mod ruled to take it elsewhere. What is so difficult to understand about that? Boscibo posted prior to Lynn’s ruling, he was not bound at that time to follow a ruling that didn’t exist. You chose to come into the thread hours later and instead saying “To the Pit with you and all others who denounce my daughter!” you played Mr. Passive-Aggressive.
Boscibo is not blameless in taking your bait, but you chose to toss it out there.
Your first post was a response. Everything after that was a hijack, and your “Nah nah, you’re wrong” post was clear baiting.
And the OP bringing up people giving their cats to the shelter was, y’know, and important part of the story. At least she appears to understand the concept of telling the whole story at once.
No I didn’t. But you seem to keep ignoring the fact that Boscibo, until Lynn came into the thread, had EVERY RIGHT to post what he did. If you think it’s baiting, fine. But the fact remains that once the ruling came down, anything following that is just a pissing match.
Dude, I’m a girl.
And there’s no such thing as anonymous email hosting. Gee, I wouldn’t want you to compromise your security or anything.
Let me see if I can make this clear. YOU CHOSE TO PUT YOUR DAUGHTER IN POTENTIAL HARM’S WAY. You defended yourself right from the beginning, both in MPSIMS and the Pit. You CHOSE to limit the information you gave us about your daughter, after being super-careful about painting yourself as a saintly cat owner, and then you freaked out when that information was misinterpreted. If you don’t want to have nosy people thinking your daughter is a fucktard, then here’s a thought.. DON’T BRING HER UP IN POTENTIALLY CONTENTIOUS DISCUSSIONS. Or be prepared to deal with the fact that people may say bad things about her, and take the opportunity to respond to them with clear information.
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Are you for real? Did you seriously go through the posts and write down times people posted? Did you really follow him around the board to see how many times he posted? Not to mention it doesn’t make sense. What do you mean, “Take the bait?” Do you think this was some big ploy to lure you all into the pit?
Who are you to tell him he shoud take it to email? Not that that makes any sense at all since this is you know, a messageboard.
The man’s daughter gave away her cat. You may or may not agree with the decision and you’ve all certainly beat that to death. I’m trying to figure out what his new crime is? Lying? Posting in the wrong place?
[QUOTE=Beaucarnea]
Maybe she didn’t try hard enough to find someone else to care for the cat.
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Maybe you’re a cock sucking whore. Who knows.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
God, you’re stupid.
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There you go again.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
Maybe you’re a cock sucking whore.
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And again.
Resorting to name calling is a coward’s way of arguing.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
God, you’re stupid. I’m honestly glad you’re not on my side. He called me a liar, and I called him a liar back. You said nothing about him, natch. Would you mind at this point just taking your head out of my ass? You’ve surely made whatever point you’re trying to make by now, haven’t you?
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We joined this board in the same month of the same year. I have never interacted with you before, and I have nothing against you. You keep piling it on and piling it on when what I said (or actually, simply asked) about in the OP was turned around BY YOU into a (perceived) attack on your daughter. I questioned her actions based on what YOU posted about her, (I never even called her a name, imagine that, where is this so called attack?), and it turns into this?
Might as well tune Lib out, Boscibo. His time away from the board, it appears, hasn’t cured his addiction to attention-whoring, vicious mud-slinging, hyper-sensitivity to (mis)perceived slights, and all-around nastiness. I give it three months, max, before he’s either suspended (again) or begging the mods to save him from himself (again).
Pity, since he can sometimes add value to a discussion, but the underlying pathology always breaks free sooner or later. Not worth wasting your time on.