Now, I think Love and Thunder is my new favorite Thor film…
But really, when you can travel to the realm of the gods and the literal center of the universe using nothing more than a wooden boat (with no life support), two goats and an axe, doesn’t the whole idea of (say) starships just seem quaint? Like something out of the golden era of sci fi of finned rockets? (This includes Einstein-Rosen bridges, too, under “quaint”, when you have the bifrost)
Just in what’s been shown in the MCU, definitely. The Kree, the Skrulls, the Nova Empire, and the Ravagers (technically not a species, but a group of space pirates) all use “normal” starships. If they ever get around to showing the Shi’ar (another big interstellar empire, on par with the Kree and the Skrulls, and which has historically been in the X-Men mythos), then they, too, would be an example of a species using traditional starships.
Thor and the other Asgardians are a little different: for one thing, they, as a species, have what are, by Human standards, superpowers, including tremendous strength and endurance, and the ability to apparently survive in space without life support, at least for a period of time.
But, beyond that, the comic books (and the MCU) have always attempted to depict Asgardian “technology” as a blend of what looks like ancient Viking stuff (i.e., wooden boats) along with what is clearly highly advanced technology. In the MCU, the Bifrost is effectively a teleporter; it also happens to look like a rainbow.
Yup; he and the Guardians have the Milano, a Ravagers ship. Star-Lord also has a life-support device (the helmet which unfolds from the device he wears under his ear), which lets him fly around in space for a brief time.
I don’t mind the MCU and their plot driven physics, but only so much of it. It just hit me that, there you are tooling along in your conventional metal fusion- or anti-matter-powered spacehip, and some long haired hippy passes you in a open wooden boat. Kinda makes you want to turn around go home and raise orchids.
Well, to be fair, Thor (the comic book) was always a bit more on the wahoo side of “comic book physics,” and the last two Thor films, under the direction of Taika Waititi, have become (along with Guardians of the Galaxy) the “goofy wing” of the MCU.
You gotta see L&T. Allowing for the fact it’s in the “goofy wing” (and me starting this thread) there really was no point during the movie I went “this is STUPID”. I did that a lot in Infinity War/Endgame.
Yes, he really does. Thor has always been one of my favorite Marvel characters, and Taika has taken advantage of Chris Hemsworth’s (and Tom Hiddleston’s) comic skills, which hadn’t been evident in earlier films.
I’m planning to watch it over Christmas break. The comic book series on which it’s partially based (the “Lady Thor” arc) is one of my favorites.
Ha!
I ignore the whole mutant side of the MCU, as much as possible, Talk about plot-driven physics, governed by the Rule of Cool. Where were all these mutants when Thanos was causing such a mess? Could have used someone with laser beam eyes and someone who kills with a touch. Or someone that takes your powers. (Given that, I liked Logan)
I disagree. I feel Taika Waititi has taken the franchise in the wrong direction. Waititi makes good comedies but these are movies that shouldn’t be comedies. Ragnarok was about the death of Thor’s father and the destruction of his home. Love and Thunder was about reconnecting with the love of his life as she was dying. The villains in these movies were people who were seeking murderous revenge for what they saw as betrayal. These are stories that would have been great dramas but instead were good comedies. The Russo brothers, Ryan Coogler, and Jon Watts understand this. Waititi does not.
Gotta come down on the side of Waititi. The MCU needs its goofier side. That has always been the downfall of DCEUs attempts at, well, frankly anything. Snyder put them back 20 years in developing a even semi-interesting playground. The MCU is Shakespeare. Even the heaviest drama has lighter points and comic relief. The DCEU is some semi-forgotten Russian novelist who even Russians think is depressing.
JAQ raises an interesting point. When they finally fold in mutants as part of the MCU, the question will be there: Where was Rogue during Infinity War? Or Magneto?
I think that it’ll depend on whether they decide if (a) the mutants had been there in the MCU version of Earth all along, but just doing other things, or (b) they are from some other multiverse (which was teased at, but not actually delivered on, in WandaVision, with what was initially believed to be the X-Men version of Quicksilver).
Dr. Foster is an expert on what we understand by the term “Einstein-Rosen Bridge”, and she recognizes the Bifrost as being one. I think that she can be forgiven ignorance of a few of the minor details, like the presence of the occasional space dolphin, by virtue of her never having actually seen one prior to her adventures with Thor.
