Utterly Pointless Sci-Fi Debate

I’ve decided to put aside my work on cold fusion and a cure for cancer for a moment and try to answer a question that is of true importance to humanity: Which Sci-Fi universe has the fastest ships? Here are the choices:

1.)Hyperdrive, Star Wars
2.)Warp Factor Nine, Star Trek
3.)Hyperspace, Babylon 5
4.)Starburst, Farscape

The conclusion I have reached is that the order, from fastest to slowest, is:

1.)Starburst - seems instantaneous, you don’t get faster than instantaneous.
2.)Hyperspace - by jumping into another dimension you can avoid that pesky Einstein guy.
3.)Hyperdrive - don’t know why, I just like to think that Han’s muscle car could whup the interstellar Winnebagos that the Federation manufactures.
4.)Warp Factor Nine

opinions?
-Beeblebrox


The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don’t.

I dunno… I think the Spice induced travel in “Dune” beats them all. Folding space is cool, although “Event Horizon” sucked

I know of 2 other forms of transportation.
Flux Drive- You enter another dimension, where the natural energy is so fast that Light is a solid. It comes from the " Soul Rider " books.
Teleportation Drive- You can teleport an entire star ship anywhere you want to go. This is courtesy of the comic book " Dreadstar ".
i hope I got these right, it has been many years since I read either story.

Wort, I was hoping to keep it narrowed to TV and movies. If we open the door to literary works we would have to aknowledge that the Improbability Drive is the fastest thing out there, as long as you can handle it when an infinite number of monkeys appear on your bridge talking about a script for Romeo and Juliet that they’ve worked out.

Enore, forgot about Dune. My coworker has informed me that I also forgot about possibly the fastest cinematic interstellar mode of travel…LUDICROUS SPEED!

**[sub]my schwartz is bigger than yours

The infinite improbability drive is rather speedy, as well. Since you hit every point in the universe simultaneously, it meets ar beats any other form of travel.

Oops! Missed the previous comment regarding the IID. Although, to be fair, it has made its appearance on TV, so it should count for the purposes of this discussion.

If we’re limiting it to TV and movies then we still need to include the Slipstream Drive from the TV show Andromeda. I don’t know how fast it is, but it ties together an intergalactic society two of whose galaxies are the Milky Way and the Andromeda galaxy. We know there is no speed in Star Trek equal to that. Even Q’s manipulations of the Enterprise were always intra-galactic.

Any other contenders?

They’ve gone PLAID!

Back when I read newsgroups with any regularity this was the only topic of conversation on alt.tv.star-trek. Well, more specifically, which would win in a fight, the Falcon or the Enterprise-D? The answer would depend strictly on whether the poster was more of a Star Trek or Star Wars fan. It seems to me a pretty pointless topic, especially given that everybody knows the Enterprise could kick the Falcon’s ass in a New York minute.

–Cliffy

Warp Travel (Star Trek) is painfully slow. One year to travel a mere 1,000 lightyears? A century to traverse the galaxy? No thanks.

Star Wars, I think, has its speed set to be relatively fast, but slow enough to keep it locked in one galaxy. A month or two (depending on the ship) to cross the galaxy is nice, even though it would be about a year or more of continuous travel to reach a different galaxy (assuming that the SW local cluster is similar to ours). However, hyperdrive isn’t as fast as some others.

I’m not familiar enough with the others to make a judgment. I just know that ST is slow as hell.

Cliffy…

Anybody knows that the Enterprise would win that battle. The Falcon is just too overmatched. However, when you pit a Star Destroyer against the Enterprise, then you get a fair(er) fight.

In any case, if the IID is out, then spice-induced space travel should be too.

Fiver, good call on Slipstream – I can’t think of any other SF with intergalactic travel. (Incidentally, the Commonwealth spanned three galaxies, not two.)

Incidentally, Star Trek’s Warp 10 seems to be near-instantaneous, too – but it also turns you into a newt. (Paris: “I got better!”)

You guys are all forgetting E.E. “Doc” Smith’s inertialess drive.

It worked like this: turn on a field that temporarily does away with inertia. Your original inertia returns when you turn off the field, so the laws of physics are only bent, not broken. Apply thrust. Since you now have no tendency to remain at your current velocity, you are instantaneously traveling at the speed at which friction from the medium equals your driving force. Since you’re traveling in a hard vacuum, that speed is pretty damn fast. And you’ve got to love his way around the whole light-speed issue: “It was just a theory.” Heh heh heh.

And no one has cited the Borg’s Transwarp drive?

Another thing screwed up by Voyager. It used to be considered “really fast”… now it’s just an order of magnitude (or so) faster than warp.

Not to mention that Transwarp intially only needed a engine in the ship.

In fact, we saw Voyager at one point raid a damaged Borg Vessel for a “Transwarp coil”.

But then, mysteriously, we found out that transwarp requires a “node”, or gates, a la B5’s hyperspace.

Geez, the Enterprise-D didn’t need to go through no stinking nodes to chase that Borg vessel.

I hate Bermen and Braga.

Beeblebrox, you of all people should remember that the Starship Bistromath was even faster than the Heart of Gold!

End Hijack.

“WE’VE GONE PLAID!”

Well, I don’t think anyone has ever developed a drive that works on this principle, but everyone knows that the speed of light is only a fraction of the speed of dark. Because wherever light goes somewhere, dark is always there first.

Starburst is fastest. You do just get there, it’s a trip through hyperspace.