Katisha, just for the record I said it’s an “intergalactic society, two of whose galaxies…” I implied there were more than two.
Instantaneous speed is nice…
but Doctor Who’s TARDIS can get there YESTERDAY!
You’re all forgetting that fastest of all ships, the one powered by bad news. Of course, no one’s ever going to be glad to see you dock. (Damn, I need to reread Hitchhiker’s Guide)
Yeah, but c’mon… fastest isn’t always the bestest. Lookit the Falcon: A glorified space jalopy. How can you get cooler than that? (Without bringing in Boba Fett, of course).
If anyone did develop it, it’d probably be Terry Pratchett in either Strata or The Dark Side of the Sun, since those are his only sci-fi novels, and AFAIK he’s the one who came up with the “speed of dark” bit to begin with…
And don’t you wish he’d do more? Dark Side of the Sun was a great book, maybe a little rocky getting started, but it was one of his earlier efforts. And i loved the surprise ending! 'Course, that’d mean fewer Discworld books, so p’raps we should forget I brought this up.
1.)Hyperdrive, Star Wars
3.)Hyperspace, Babylon 5
These are faster than warp in general, though both vary somewhat according to how high-tech you are. Wars is around a million c or so, while B5 is around 500,000 c+
4.)Starburst, Farscape
I can’t remember for sure, but isn’t there some sort of distance limitation on starburst? Thus in effect your overall speed isn’t that fast.
2.)Warp Factor Nine, Star Trek
Relatively slow. Apparently Warp 9 is 1516 c, but Warp 9.9 would be 3053 c. Transwarp seems to be 10^5 c or more, though that changes as the writers can never remember. And going at warp 10 means that not only do you occupy every position in the universe at once, but that you instantly evolve into what your species will become in the future. Or something.:rolleyes:
Fastest I can think of at all is the Culture. 183 trillion c. Sure for only a few micro-seconds, but it’s still not bad. (Iain M. Banks, Excession)
Oh yeah, and an Star Destroyer would so kick the Enterprise-D’s butt.
Yeah, you did! Sorry, I plead brain-lock…
Battlefield Earth had teleporters that would instantly transport matter between universes.
weeeeeeeeeeeell, it all depends on who the directors want to win. maybe there’s a teeny tiny little hatch that leads to a hold of extra-extra combustible stuff, a teeny tiny little flaw in the blueprints, that the Falcon can reach with its proton torpedos…
d&r
At the risk of sounding even more sarcastic than I actually am, this is probably the most accurately labelled thread I have run across.
That having been said, my vote is with the Guild Navigators folding space in Dune. (squeeeeeks in as a movie)
Shortie…
Oh yeah, and an Star Destroyer would so kick the Enterprise-D’s butt.
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Cougarfang…
maybe there’s a teeny tiny little hatch that leads to a hold of extra-extra combustible stuff, a teeny tiny little flaw in the blueprints, that the Falcon can reach with its proton torpedos…
If any ship were designed that way, it would definitely be a Star Trek ship.
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Don’t forget about the instantaneous “wishing makes it so” method used by Jane in the later Ender books.
I’m psychic! I knew this thread had devolved into an Enterprise-D vs. ISD thread before I even opened it.
That said, of the three I know of I would rate them such.
SW- Hyperdrive. Ships of all classes travel from Core to Rim worlds and back in a matter of hours to days. Trans-Galactic travel takes roughly a week. SW has started exploration of neighboring galaxies but with lots of expansion room in their home galaxy there is no real drive for external exploration. Speed roughly 1 to 10 million C.
B5- Hyperspace. Well it is really hard to pin down exact distances and speeds in B5. For one thing the scale has changed. For the first two seasons everything took place in area about 200ly across. This is galactically speaking, tiny. In the third season all this changed and suddenly everything was galactic in scale. For example when the characters discuss the locations of Shadow activity they are discussing an area roughly 1/10 of the galaxy. And they discuss the other regions as if they had current, reliable and accurate information about the rest. To add to the confusion about how far the ships are traveling, the show states that travel through hyperspace is not consistent. So while travel times from B5 to Earth and Centauri are roughly equal Centauri is stated as being twice as far from B5 as Earth. All this said, characters in the later seasons transit the galaxy in weeks to months and cover virtually any distance in the area covered by the primary narrative in a few days at most. Speed roughly .5 million C (or if you ignore everything after the first two seasons 1,000 C).
ST- Warp. Travel within the Federation can take months. Travel across the galaxy takes nearly a century “at top warp.” All material consistently gives high warp speeds in the same ranges. Speed roughly 2000-6000 C.
On the issue of SW vs. ST. An ISD would destroy a Galaxy class ship before Data could say “Perhaps we can modulate the shields using our deflector array to fire a tachion stream creating a harmonic field of chronotons.” The ISD has higher speeds, a more powerful barrage and stronger defenses. Given that it is also a dedicated military craft instead of a hybrid multi-function ship, and given that they don’t explode every time the warp core is bumped, I would say no contest.
I’ll just reiterate what I said the last time the Star Destroyer debate came up: Any Federation warship could easily kick a SD’s butt. Unfortunately, there aren’t any Federation warships.
And an RMN battlecruiser could beat either, hands-down.
*Originally posted by Bartman *
**On the issue of SW vs. ST. An ISD would destroy a Galaxy class ship before Data could say “Perhaps we can modulate the shields using our deflector array to fire a tachion stream creating a harmonic field of chronotons.” The ISD has higher speeds, a more powerful barrage and stronger defenses. Given that it is also a dedicated military craft instead of a hybrid multi-function ship, and given that they don’t explode every time the warp core is bumped, I would say no contest. **
I’d agree if it wasn’t for the Empire’s Achilles Heel philosophy of design. I mean, if a single fighter aircraft can take out the mother of all space stations, you might be able to kill a star destroyer by stuffing a cherry bomb in an air vent.
Hey, why bother hijacking a perfectly good thread? Head on over to IMHO, where I’ve opened the debate up again with Enterprise vs. Star Destroyer… again!
*Originally posted by Badtz Maru *
**Battlefield Earth had teleporters that would instantly transport matter between universes. **
I thought it was between planets? Though it’s a whiel since I read it, and I avoided the movie.
SPOOFE, Thanks man, maybe later.
Chronos, Sure, but I prefer Dahak or the Fury to Nike anyway.
Hey, Shortie, do you also post over at Spacebattles with the same name?