Here’s the thing: I do think that it’s highly likely that THC, or other chemicals in marijuana, have medicinal value. The problem is, we don’t know what that medicinal value is, yet. And folks like this guy in the OP who are unscientifically touting it as a cure-all are only hindering the efforts to find out what it’s really good for.
Yes, it is the same thing. It’s the exact same thing. Burden of proof may lie with the person making the claim, but how do you expect some regular joe to provide this. He’s not selling anything, he’s giving a recipe for free. The man is saying that he had tried it on himself as an option to main stream medicine and it worked. Bottom line. He has tried it with other people who were written off by main stream medicine and sentenced to death, they are still alive and well. I don’t think he has to prove anything to anyone, he is merely relaying an option that he has seen work.
I expect anyone who can’t provide evidence to not make claims in the first place. He doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone; he could just keep his mouth shut. But since he’s decided to make claims, he’s also decided to assume the burden of proof.
This gets at the core of a lot of misunderstanding. I’ll guarantee you that he has not tried this on anyone who was sentenced to death by mainstream medicine, because mainstream medicine doesn’t sentence anyone to death. A doctor will, occasionally, say that there’s nothing he can do, but that doesn’t mean that death is a guarantee, only that we can’t improve the odds. But sometimes, the patient still gets lucky anyway, and pulls through, with no particular cause anyone can determine. And sometimes someone gets lucky and pulls through for no particular reason, but happens to be trying some unproven remedy at the same time. Maybe the new treatment worked, and maybe it didn’t, and the only way to tell the difference is with a proper scientific study.
The one drug that might have a claim to that honor is aspirin, although it accomplishes most of it’s “cures” through the same effect.
Peace,
mangeorge
chronos, stop nitpicking, you know what I meant by “sentenced to death”, they said that there was nothing else they could do.
I have had enough of this silliness, if I wanted to argue I would talk to my wife. I’m just glad you are not in my immediate family and helping me make decisions when all other hope has been lost.
Later
Funny. Threads and conversations about religion often turn to this same argument. “How can [religion] be the One True Path when all religions claim to worship The One (Many?) True God(s)?”
::head explodes::
Read a good bit of the site, and it fails with me because of it’s scatteredness.
But, primarily because it’s advocating the use of the essential oil of the cannabis plant for cytotoxic activity, and, granted, they say to use it in small doses, but any plant with cytotoxic/anticancer properties is very potent, and can have bad effects with overdose and misuse. There is a real risk of people using those substances improperly without proper medical supervision.
Personally, I would like to see good pure scientific studies done on whole plant extracts for medicinal use, without a need to patent an active ingredient. I have all hopes that that research will come, as we have better methods to understand the complexity of plant bio chemistry.
I knew what you meant, but it wasn’t clear that you did. “Sentenced to death” implies that the chance of recovery is zero, where the actuality is just that they can’t do anything more to improve the chance of recovery. If a doctor told me that a loved one had a 50% chance of survival, and that there was nothing more they could do, I would be very worried and upset, but if they did end up surviving, I wouldn’t proclaim it was a miracle or try to figure out what caused the recovery; I’d just conclude that they got lucky and won the coin toss. Now, if the doctor told me that there were no chance of recovery at all and the patient still recovered, then I’d try to find an explanation. I think what happens in cases like this is that the doctor tells the patient that there’s nothing more they can do, and the patient draws the wrong conclusion, leading the patient to conclude that there must have been some miracle cure, when in fact there was no miracle at all.
This will be my one and only reply to you. This forum (GQ) is not for arguing over things you can’t prove. You ask a question. People provide the best answer they can. You either accept it, ask questions if you don’t understand, or just start making jokes. That’s all this forum is for. If you want to argue something you can’t prove, go somewhere else. If you think you already knew the answer, there is no reason to post at all. I really get tired of us letting people use this forum for reasons other than it is intended.
As for your specific question, “regular joe” should not bother to post in this forum unless he can find something that could possible prove his point. And if people don’t find your proof convincing, go find more or just realize you aren’t going to convince anybody. It doesn’t matter how right you are if you can’t convince others.