I’d have to agree. I mean, there are so many levels.
If the women had a body like, say, Pam Anderson, and her face literally looked like it was just shot with a shotgun, I’m sorry, no deal.
You gotta have a little of both.
I mean, a guy with a face like Brad Pitt and body of 500 pounds with his stomach draping over his groin wouldn’t be too appealing would it. BUT, a guy with a face like Brad Pitt and weighing, say, 250 lbs, maybe. Then again, 200, but out of shape, better.
Without having looked at any other answers, I prefer a good body! People with nice faces are generally vain and self-centered - yawn. But people with good bodies - and give me a guy who is slender, shorter than me and a nice butt - may not be aware of how sexy they are, what with all the clothing we cover ourselves with.
And it is not true that everyone’s body gets gross as they age. Some people take very good care of themselves. Also, faces can age very quickly, being exposed to the sun and all that.
If you really enjoy getting blown, then a nice face is probably going to be important to you.
So for me, first, body, second, body, and third, because faces just don’t do it that much for me.
It all comes down to a matter of opinion. One man’s nasty butt is another man’s super sexy playtoy. With all the set standards of human (especially female) beauty nowdays, we all tend to forget that our opinions differ. Personally, I look at face more than body. I’ve been with a guy who was overweight and a guy who was super-skinny, I can’t say that either body particularly bothered me at the time, but they both had attractive faces. (Although the super-skinny guy did allow for more, uh, “bedroom freedom”.)
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Ladies, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. My only contact with such garments is brief, and I’m ususually pretty distracted.
The attractiveness of a face is not simply based on its form.
There are very, very few faces which won’t be attractive, if their owner is intelligent, witty, and kind, and you get to know them.
On the other hand, someone with an initially stunning face can start looking really bad when you get to know them and find out they are not a nice person!
Body preferences, on the other hand, tend to be more hard-wired. There is some shift, but if someone has a bad body, I probably won’t start finding it attractive because I learn how great they are. It’s not a conscious thing, that’s just how it works.
So if the person is intelligent, witty, and kind, then I would rather they have a good body, because with all their good qualities I will soon find their face attractive. I’ve never met anyone with a face so ugly that it wouldn’t be attractive if I got to know them and they were awesome.
And if they aren’t a really cool person, why would I want to date them in the first place?
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I’ve actually had the complete opposite experience. That since society seems to value body over face, the thin folks “know” they’re attractive, and thus seem to be more self-centered. I’ve met very few girls with a really pretty face but a chubby build who were self-centered - they’d actually have low self-esteem because they thought that fat automatically made them ugly.
But I’m talking about teenage girls, here. I don’t know how folks in the mid to upper 20’s act.
It might also be a difference between men and women (I noticed that you said “men”). Men aren’t expected to wear tight shirts and pants to be sexy, so might rely more on their faces.
There is definitely some truth in that. I grew up believing that because I was fat (I won’t say horribly obese), that I was invisible. And a lot of the time, it was true. But not all of the time.
When I was pretty young, I remember one of my more savvy friends having to “protect” me from an older man who obviously didn’t find me hideous and possibly wanted to exploit my naive nature. I was oblivious to what was going on, so when my savvy friend warned me about him, my astonished response was, “But I’m fat!” She looked at me like I was a moron and said, “But you’re still attractive.” I had no clue.
Sorry for the little hijack. Carry on with the poll!
I’m with chigger on this one. The first thing I notice is body fat. I don’t know why, and I can’t say it’s entirely conscious. But for some reason, rolls of body fat are a bigger turn off than anything else.
The body is more sexual for me than the face. I’m an ass man visually and love the feel of ample breasts. I do like fuller figured women than what popular culture seems to be pushing and being fat (not obese) doesn’t bother me in the least if it’s carried well. What many might find as a bad body, I might find as ‘mmm that’d be good.’
The face seems to withstand the ravages of time better than bodies on either males or females.
Reality:
I am to the point where as long as a woman isn’t ugly enough to scare children, grossly fat or grossly skinny, likes me for who I am, isn’t a bitch, isn’t crazy, and I like her for who she is then I’m happy.
What? We’ve got all the way into this discussion without mentioning the word BOBFOC*?
If we’re talking a purely sexual relationship, well, I’ve had my share of BOBFOCs, so I’d say the body wins hands down (pardon the pun). For love and marriage, then the whole package, including the face.
Body off Baywatch, face off Crimewatch**
**Crimewatch is a BBC show where, amongst other things, they try to get the public to identify people caught committing crimes on CCTV.
I know exactly how you feel. I meet people all the time that I’ve met several times before and they have no idea who I am. I’m just that chubby girl who sits in the corner drinking alone.
I was at a party last night and there were people there that I’d met before, I even remembered some of their names, but none of them gave me a second glance. Then I ran into somebody that I don’t actually like but I was drunk so I didn’t care. I was astonished that she remembered me, and then she went on for 20 minutes about how I have such a striking face, I’ve got these model-like perfectly arched eyebrows and these piercing eyes… blah blah blah. But it was just surprising hearing that, I’m so used to being invisible.
Oh and to clarify, I’m talking average/slightly unattractive bodies and faces here, I doubt if you put Angelina Jolie’s face on Roseanne’s body many people would want her. And I know personality counts (I’m surprised so many of you said that, it’s making me rethink my “men are horny assholes” stance) so let’s assume the woman in question has a pleasant one.
And chigger, a woman would have to be morbidly obese for it to affect her hygiene. The women you’re talking about probably just didn’t bathe enough, something even thin girls do.
I don’t want to discourage you from re-thinking that stance, but I think you should also keep in mind that the ratio of horny jackasses to decent human beings is probably going to be a bit different in the SDMB than what you might find in a random poll of the male population.
You sure about that? All you have to do is look at the views-to-hits ratio on any thread with the word “bra” or “nipples” in the title to see that the (presumably straight male) SDMB members are just as prurient as any other group.
To claim that I’m anything other than a horny jackass would be dishonest. I can control it, but as far as I’m concerned I’m simply wired that way.
I think the reason 'a pretty face" was selected over ‘a nice body’ is because facial beauty is much more subjective and relative a term. There are alot more definitions of what is considered an attractive face then there are a ‘hot body’
If someone say person A has a great body - odds are the overwhelming majority would agree with the label.
But if someone else says person B has a ‘pretty face’, you’d find alot more disagreement.
Though a few might say she’s too skinny, almost everyone would agree with the latter part of the statement. But I’ve heard alot of people say ‘ewww - look at her nose, that chin and her long face’ regarding the former.