Were it mythical and false, ( and, I have no trouble repeating this point, and providing copious cites in case folks think somehow I’m making this up ), the Marines would not be instituting Core Values Training for all personnel in Iraq.
Core. Values.
I didn’t chose those words. The military did, ok?If anyone feels it is false logic to teach the Marines Core Values, I heartily encourage you to contact the Department of Defense in Washington. They’re in the book.
In point of fact, my idea of what Marines do is neither mythical nor false. While both recent incidents have not come to trial and so I suppose that even though this is the Pit and not G.D., you could insist angrily that I not cast any aspersions, I’m going to anyway. This IS the Pit. I AM enraged at what they did. Won’t be the first time someone ranted in the Pit, yanno…
Some United States Marines did some very very very very very bad things in Iraq recently. That is neither false, nor is it mythical.
Exactly what will you have to say to me after all nine of the Haditha suspects are found guilty of murder, kidnapping and conspiracy? ( the charge that, according to a CNN broadcast, the US Military is considering filing against all of them ) ?
I have a lot of respect for you, Monty, but nobody gets to call false or mythical until the jury is in on either of these cases. I mean, you certainly can and just did basically call me a liar and that’s okay, but as I said- what are you going to have to say after they’re convicted? After the Core Values Training that apparently only I’ve heard about has been conducted much to the bemusement of hardened Marines.
Man. You’re asking me to re-post an answer I just gave? Fine. You asked what I am Pitting. I am Pitting the culture of appalling disrespect, disregard for human life and utter contempt for morals and the law. Again, if it were just a few bad apples, the Marines would not be pissing away money that they could make better use of by producing and touring a Core Values Program in Iraq.
I am Pitting the fact that these guys ( and gals, I don’t know if there are women in the unit also, no mention has been made one way or the other ) went and did what they did in both incidents. Then, let us look at the phrase that’s supposed to be revered and respected- Chain of Command. Oooooh. The big bosses. Guess what? They covered up Haditha too and that is as much the focus of the Marine Corps’ investigation as the murders themselves, and that is plainly stated BY THE COMMANDANT in the cite I provided.
It is not a few bad apples. It is a culture. You asked what I am Pitting? I couldn’t be more concise.