Why bother with all the gyrations? As far as the Bush-apologists are concerned, “stupid” simply means “someone who doesn’t think as I do.”
Brutus, every news agency uses selective quoting every singly day. Moore asked him if he wanted to send his son to Iraq. Kennedy said something about a nephwew going to Afghanistan. It’s not an answer to the question asked.
Isn’t it for for you to criticize selective quoting, but only respond to one of my points? I’d rather be a Moore-on and right than be an idiot like you.
Did you see any rows of leftists — having come to criticize the film — beating their own heads and gnashing their teeth in anguish and shame?
As opposed to leftists speaking of Them Ignorant Righties?
You’re weird.
Why should there be? is “leftist” the opposite of “Christian?”
If there’s a mod reading this thread, please close it. It really bothers me that my name is appended to anything so futile.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/report.php?p=5036007
If you’re going to play hall monitor, play it even-handedly.
I wasn’t playing “hall monitor,” Lib, it was an honest question. I just didn’t see the TPOTC as being a political movie.
I’m a leftist and I saw the Passion twice in theaters, largely because I had an interest in the subject matter and also because I was intrigued by the use of ancient languages. It never occurred to me that I should have a political opinion of the film.
It all makes sense, Dio, if you understand that “Pharisee” is Aramaic for “greedy trial lawyers and cigar-chomping union bosses”.
And anyone who doubts Divine Intervention need only look at the Florida “10,000 Jews for Buchanan” miracle.
Moore claimed in his Jon Stewart interview that his documentary was not a political movie. And yet, Rjung gleefully reported in this post a note from Moore’s site. I’ll paste it here for your convenience:
For whatever reason, you did not see fit to ask whether Republican is the opposite of reasonable.
Moore’s film is obviously anti-Bush but I didn’t see it as particularly political in the sense of propounding any specific political philosophy other than “Bush sucks.” Moore does not endorse any political party or candidate in the film (I don’t think he even mentions John Kerry’s name) and his criticisms of Bush are arguably not so much philosophical as they are practical and ethical. The reaction of Bush supporters to an anti-Bush film would be directly relevant, especially if said Bush supporters were to hypothetically show some sort of change of heart- or at least embarrassment- after watching the movie.
The Passion was a totally apolitical religious statement so contemporary divisions of political 'left" and “right” are irrelevant to the message of the movie. I think a more accurate analogy for TPOTC would be if a group of atheists (or better yet Jews, given the movie’s controversy) had gone to the film to mock it or criticize it and instead had come away chastened.
Someone has to sit down with LLiberal and explain (probably with very small words) that one doesn’t have to be a Democrat to think Bush’s policies vis-a-vis Iraq are a disaster.
HOLY SHIT, I found a Michael Moore lie!!
Bush wasn’t reading “My Pet Goat”
He was reading “The Pet Goat”!!
http://www.answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=367341
What a miserable bastard! 
Oh, okay. Then was there a row of Jews beating their own heads and gnashing their teeth in anguish and shame? Damn, you can miss a point worse than Bush at a press conference.
For those folks still interested in Michael Moore’s truth-telling skills and/or the accuracy of Fahrenheit 9/11, Moore has finally put up cites for all of the facts he presents in the film.
Start here. It’s a doozy, so bring snacks.
Same old bullshit. The very first one.
“Fox was the first network to call Florida for Bush. Before that, some other networks had called Florida for Gore, and they changed after Fox called it for Bush.”
Aside from being a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, that isn’t what the film said. The film said that the other networks changed their call because “well, if Fox says it, it must be the truth”. How fucking stupid and desparate must a human being be to defend that sort of nonsense. Furthermore, I doubt that Moore put up anything at all. He was likely hovering over a big sprawling buffet in his penthouse while minions of morons dug it all up and coded it into HTML.
ad hominem much, Libertarian?
Pay attention much, TwistOfFate? I cited his post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
Also, in the unlikely event that the board rules mean anything to you, I would remind you of TVeblen’s recent ruling:
We’re going to need a Liberal is his name-o sticky so that poor old Lib ______ (don’t you dare fill in the blank) doesn’t have to keep reminding people that he has a judge’s ruling on this one. Of course, it should be Classic Liberal, but that is beside the point.
I take it L that you have seen the film then? Or are you so sure about what it said from reading a transcript? And in fact, Fox did call it for Bush without sufficient rationale. So why did the other networks do the same? A reasonable conclusion is the pack mentality of the media, the metaphor of the six-year olds playing soccer fits this situation as well.