Hi,
Can anyone fill me in a bit on Michael Moore? I’m just wading through Dude, Where’s my Country? and I was wondering why he whines quite as much as he does.
Much appreciated…
Cheers.
He’s just trying to make this world a better place ;). Perhaps you should watch his documentaries first, Roger and Me and Bowling for Columbine.
You should read his book Dude, Where’s my Country? for a full explanation.
You should read his OP.
I did. I guess I’m new at this sarcasm thing.
seriuously, though. It’s all very well critcising the establishment, but he does come over a little smug. I keep waiting for him to say ‘vote for me instead’…
I preferred when he wasn’t so smug, say around Roger and Me. In Stupid White Men he rants about celebrities (saying how the riots in Simi Valley during the LA Riots should have been targeted towards celebrities and rich folk in Beverly Hills) and I’m thinking, “Michael, you are a celebrity. You’re one of those rich white men that you hate”.
I like the gist of it, just not how he comes across.
He is pompous in my opinion, and thinks his shit doesn’t stink. I wouldn’t pay $1 to read his crap.
And his “documentaries” are anything but. It has now come out from the people in “Bowling for Columbine” that it was all set up and not an acurate depiction at all. Feh. I say take back his award.
No, he just thinks that the goddamn government should be accountable, regardless of who is in power.
I really dislike the sophomoric humor in his books. It detracts from the seriousness of the questions he asks, and makes me reluctant to read his stuff as well. But he makes some valid points and calls attention to the criminality of government and big business.
You should see http://www.michaelmoore.com
He has recently addressed the accusations that Bowling… was set-up and nonfactual.
(is nonfactual a word?)
… Accountable for… what? Things that don’t happen? Like being handed a free gun when you open a bank account?
Michael Moore ranting about “accountability” is the biggest load of hypocrisy I’ve ever seen.
He is pompous, trust me. He has a right to his opinion of course (that is what makes this a free country) but when people’s opinions somehow become “gospel”, that makes you pompous. He has the right to move out of this country if he is so unhappy.
So that didn’t happen?
Hmmm, according to keepandbeararms.com (which I’d assume would be a pro-gun site):
I’d like to see what you’ve got that refutes what Michael Moore did and also proof that this sort of thing doesn’t happen.
Thanks in advance.
Michael Moore sometimes comes across as whiny because he is incredibly frustrated with the huge gap between common sense and the way things happen here in the USA, and can’t believe that change doesn’t happen when people in power are presented with the plain and simple facts.
I think it’s good that someone is bringing these topics to up to the masses- I think many of the things he discusses need to be addresses- but I think he’s the wrong person to do it. I find him very condescending, and I’m not a fan of the whole, y’know, making-shit-up thing.
Do you have any additional cites for this?
Oh, and Joachim Pieper, there’s no shortage of discussion about Moore on this Board. Try a search. The board seems pretty evenly split between people who like and those who dislike Moore.
I dunno. Moore is really entertaining, I’ll give him that, and he makes some good points, but he can’t expect to be taken seriously by anyone who doesn’t already agree with him. He’s sort of a liberal Michael Savage in that his views are far more extreme than most and he does more to stir sh*t up/enrage the other side than to actually initiate important dialogue.
I’ve seen him speak and met him, and he is a very charismatic and likeable guy. He’s also very funny, and it’s easy to see why he has the fan base he does (including me). I would just say to confirm anything you hear from him with an independent source before you make decisions based on it or pass it on as truth.
LC
Don’t know you, so can’t say I can trust you. 
I’m not convinced that many people consider his opinions to be ‘gospel’. Opinions are meant to provoke thought and discussion, and to possibly jar others out of their complacency, which he manages to do to some extent.
Your last statement is the penultimate argument of those who have no rational arguments (the final statement in the series usually being “fuck you” or some other meaningless insult). It’s on a par with telling blacks to move back to Africa if they don’t like the way they are treated. He should leave the country because he doesn’t hold the same views as you? Because he’s a dissenting voice? Because he thinks things are out of whack and that life can be better than this?
Can you tell me which of the Bill of Rights or which amendment to the Constitution gives him the “right to move out of this country”, by the way? It’s an option, not a right, and a cowardly one at that.
It’s about a third of the way down the page where he actually starts addressing the accusations. The gun in the bank promo thing is the first of them.