As I stated, that was my impression of how the Biden administration approached all the wrongdoing from the Trump 45 days. At best they convicted a small handful of insurrectionists, who got sentences of around one year at most. And forget about going after the main people, they seemingly had no interest in doing so.
Note the tense of the verb “is.” Who, exactly, is arguing for that now, since Trump II has happened? Who on this board is arguing for that point of view, now?
There may have been some hope, once Trump failed to get re-elected the first time, that the worst was over and that things would settle down and start moving towards “back to normal.” That may have played some part in what the Biden administration did. But by now, the horse that Pollyanna rode in on is long since dead, and there is no need to keep beating it.
Admittedly I haven’t heard any Democratic candidates that are running for the Senate or House arguing for that viewpoint. But neither have I heard them running on a platform of retribution against all the shit Trump 47 has been doing. Maybe I’m just not listening to / looking in the right places.
ETA. My suspicion is that if / when Democrats are back in power, that they are going to go back to that, as you put it, dead horse that Pollyanna rode in on.
Indeed I am glad to hear it. Retribution should not be the motivation for any legal actions they are planning to take. They should act coldly and correctly, according to the law, neither more nor less. Especially I don’t want to hear political rhetoric about retribution. What this country does not need is demagogues of any stripe screaming for the blood of their enemies.
Unless you have actually done it, you should not minimize a year in prison. It actually seems like it could be a pretty stiff sentence. Of course it depends on what the person actually did. People who bring weapons and use them on police officers certainly deserve more but, I believe that they are the ones who got those 10 and 20 year terms.
Second degree murder means that you deliberately killed some one. People who did that get paroled after a decade or two.
Yeah, a year in prison is a prickly meal to swallow. Even just a night in jail is surprisingly hard, once you realize that no, that door is not going to open and there’s nothing you can do about it.
That is correct. She was taken from Ohio to Somalia.
No, I don’t think that is a fair statement. Yes, black people have been mistreated in this country since it was founded. But I think you need to review the definitions of “totalitarian” and “dictatorship”.
I think you greatly underestimate just how bad it has been for black people in the US.
Slavery was a totalitarian dictatorship. People in living dictatorships have more freedom than slaves did. In modern dictatorships you have no rights, but as long as you don’t get involved in politics the government mostly leaves you alone. Slaves had their entire lives managed on a personal level. A person in a modern dictatorship like Russia, China, Belarus, etc has far more freedom than a slave in the US ever did.
Black people under Jim Crow had about the same levels of freedom as people living in the worst third world dictatorships.
The universal declaration of human rights is a good guideline for what a free society offers its citizens. Black people under Jim Crow had almost none of these. Also black people in the north had it better, but they didn’t live in a free or fair democracy either.
Which ties back into my OP. Now that middle class whites are starting to see it, it all feels new and unfair. But this is what America has always been for marginalized people.
The US embassy? I didn’t know we had one in Somalia. That would have been a good one for Kimberly Gargoyle. Greece is too good for her ![]()
No, in Kenya. She was in Kenya with her aunt. The embassy staff there rescue several hundred Americans per year.
I just want to mark the first day of Pride Month by saying: @deltogre, you’re a real mensch. Thank you for being a good person.
High praise from a wonderful person in their own right. I humbly thank you.