I always thought the “what other mammal drinks milk?” argument was a crock, too. Humans eat a lot of things no other mammals eat, because we’re crafty, creative suckers. What other mammal eats tofu?
What other mammal drinks beer? (I’m not sure I want you people to answer that question.)
Of course because those cute little cows and other domestic animals should be set free to roam the country side, no matter how much damage their hoofs do, or how much they defoliate plants, and ruin whatever ecosystems they’re set free in.
Yes I was politely ignoring this thread but what the hey, or is that hay ?
We just did the milk-mucus thing over in GQ. A couple medical studies and neither could come up with any connection.
120 pounds of waste a day. I don’t think so, just adding up in my head how much they eat and drink as well as lime, sawdust and straw underneath them. They just don’t add up to that much and that’s before subtracting out the milk they produce.
100 pounds a day is a very high production average for any cow. Udders dragging on the ground is also highly unusual.
Last time I looked BST was illegal in Canada. Several companies in the US, including the one we send milk to, require their producers to be BST free and they usually label it as such. Fewer farms are using this than you believe because they are finding out that it isn’t as economical as the makers first led them to believe (gasp).
As for antibiotics, milk is heavily tested for them due to the allergic reactions that they sometimes produce. A farmer that gets caught tainting the rest of the truck tanker of milk with his own pays for the entire tanker of milk that the company dumps. In other words the company has no reason to put tainted milk in the system when they find it since the monetary responsibility is shouldered by the individual farmer. A sample is taken from each farm as it is pumped onto the tanker for this specific reason.
The newer large farms are using mostly milking parlors with free stall systems that seperate the cows from their feed while not latching them in. This makes it easier and faster to clean with machinery such as skid steers and rotary brushes (think street sweeper for the farm). I highly suggest visiting some of these newer farms. The 3000 cow dairy that recently went in 15 miles up the road has room with full glass overlooking the parlor and stalls and has a pretty much open door policy.
As for milking cows several times a day. A cow is only going to give as much milk as you provide nourishment for. You milk a cow three times and production will not increase 50% over twice a day milking, though it will increase. Thus you have increased her production (you’ve also got to feed her more) but her udder actually has less stress on it because it doesn’t have to hold as much between milkings. Milking isn’t stressful, it takes 10 minutes at the very most.
I got a good laugh out of the last picture on the PETA site that shows a cow strapped onto a “contraption” that looks like some torture device. It is a hoof trimming table. They flip from horizontal to vertical so that cows can walk alongside, be strapped in, gently rolled over and get their hooves trimmed all in a matter of a few minutes. But do you see that explanation with it ? Nooooo
I ** do not** have a link to prove this, but when my daughter was very young she had asthma. The doctor told me to avoid giving her milk, during a bad flare up, because she had enough phlegm(sp?) and the milk caused more mucous to be produced.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
In regards to: “What other mammal drinks another mammal’s milk?”
I don’t see the point of this question. What other animal actually cooks meat before eating it? Therefore cooking meat must be unhealthy by this logic (or lack thereof).
‘Well, ya know what happens if milk consumption goes down . . .’
It has been for years…
Just thought I’d weigh in again with some humble opinions.
#1) I get phlegmy from milk products. That’s just my own experience, but I have sinus problems to begin with. Milk just makes it worse.
#2) I love almost all things dairy.
#3) I am lactose intolerant, but I still eat ice cream and cheese and I drink the occasional glass of milk (even with vitamin supplements to help me digest, milk still tends to have the worst effect on me). Milk (especially whole milk) is SO YUMMY!!!
“The analyst went barking up the wrong tree, of course. I never should have mentioned unicorns to a Freudian.” – Dottie (“Jumpers” by Tom Stoppard)
Maybe Versace jackets, but not hamburgers. Milk comes from cows. Beef comes from steer.
“His eyes are as green as a fresh-pickled toad,
His hair is as dark as a blackboard,
I wish he was mine, he’s really divine,
The hero who conquered the Dark Lord.”
Ok, skim milk is water in my opinion. It tastes like water, it has the consistency of water, its WATER! 1% for me.
Where’s my side of FUN!?
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Ophy
We get those cool “Got Milk?” commercials?
Oh, and Ophy, it’s blue water ok? Get it straight! 
Mike Mulligan had a steam shovel,
a beautiful red steam shovel.
Her name was Mary Anne.
When it comes to hamburger breed and sex differences fall by the wayside. Steak and other premium cuts will more likely come from the young beef breeds but hamburger and other ground meats can come from the older cows and dairy breeds.
Didn’t know that. Hm.
“His eyes are as green as a fresh-pickled toad,
His hair is as dark as a blackboard,
I wish he was mine, he’s really divine,
The hero who conquered the Dark Lord.”
My friend and I were talking about this last night.
I decided it would be pretty damn funny if a bunch of drunk Spring Breakers went cow tipping, or possibly slid their car into a herd of cows.
But then again, I’m a sick bastard.
You say “cheesy” like that’s a BAD thing.
Off the subject, but----for as long as I can remember, I have heard this business about “cow tipping.” I grew up in an farming community and attended school with a lot of farm kids, including a few from dairy farms.
I have never known anyone who actually “tipped” a cow, nor have I ever known anyone who would claim to have seen it done. I have known lots of guys who say “we” used to go out “cow tipping” but I often ran around with those guys in younger days and can only conclude that when they went out “cow tipping,” they were at some pains to exclude me from the festivities. I don’t believe “cow tipping” can be done. So, how about it: Do we have anyone who can, with a straight face, claim to have actually “tipped” a cow? How about it, Funeefarmer, what’s your take?
Well, a buddy of mine and I spotted Delta Burke snoozing in the sun on a beach in Florida.
Headlong run and a push. She tipped right over.
BTW: She’s still pissed off about the whole thing.
–Kalél
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“If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic.”
“Well, there was that thing with the Cheese-Wiz…but I’m feeling much better now!” – John Astin, Night Court
The only time I’ve tipped a cow was when one tried to kick me. I grabbed the leg then leaned into her side and she fell down. She then hopped back up and gave me ‘the look’. I’ve tipped several bulls that have tried to get away from me while I was leading them with a rope but again this is not what you’re talking about.
Frankly I’ve never seen it done either though I continue to hear about it. It requires a cow that is sleeping while standing. Since there is usually a herd of them it is hard to sneak up on them, usually at least several are awake. I think it could be done under the right circumstances I’ve just never come across the right circumstances. I usually go out during the summer and bring the cows back from pasture at about 3 am. Occasionally I can sneak up on one without her knowing but I’ve never tried tipping her.
Then again why piss off an animal several times your size ? (okay, maybe a couple times MY size, I like my pasta)
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