Misogyny, victim-blaming, and the board culture (yet again)

It should be noted SamuelA is the only one you admonished for changing the subject to Ford/ Kavanaugh while multiple other posters have done likewise. I feel there is genuine bias against certain points of view and those people who express those views. Instead having reasonable discussions, they hide behind claims of misogyny. Don’t give into them.

It is telling that during the previous shitstorm over misogyny, which resulted in more strict moderation of misogynistic posts, there was a female moderator. And now as a former mod, she has said she found HD’s comment misogynistic. Unfortunately we only have the male moderation staff making the calls today, and those standards seem to have reverted to the way it used to be.

I hope TubaDiva is successful finding some more moderators willing to come on board, and is able to expand the range of perspectives a bit.

Do you feel everyone should take the possibility of death threats against their attacker into account before reporting a crime?

This wasn’t a crime report, it was an explicit attack. A crime report would be going to the police in a timely manner when records and witnesses still exist.

We’ve heard it before. Action is what counts now.

And people like you are the reason why women dont feel comfortable doing so. Congrats!

Do you know what happens if you complain to an institution? Usually, absolutely nothing. But if you go to a different institution things get better immediately. Have you heard of Reddit? In Reddit, many subreddits are explicit echo chambers with no dissent allowed. This is what you are asking for. There are subreddits explicitly moderated by women for women where any posts outside the opinions of that subreddit are downvoted and the posters will be banned. There is also a couple that are safe spaces for Trump supporters. In them, the impeachment hearings don’t even exist, just missteps by liberals.

The key that makes this possible is the voting system. Here, the posts you find offensive don’t break any rules. I explain logically the key holes in Ford’s story. You find this to be victim blaming - I don’t accept it as certain that Ford is even a victim at all. So the mods don’t delete my posts. But on Reddit, it’s based on the opinions of the crowd, and these posts of mine would be invisible on some subreddits. On others, yours would be the ones voted down to oblivion.

Yes, because it’s SO FUCKING UNREASONABLE to expect that the gender that is the ACTUAL MAJORITY in the US be represented, if not equally, then at least nominally in the moderation staff of this incredibly and overwhelmingly cranky old white male space. How dare we. So unreasonable, these women, expecting such consideration and SPECIAL TREATMENT. flips vigorous double bird

Ah, I see. So do you feel that unless a victim files an actual crime report in a timely manner, they should shut up about it for all time?

The hell?

Heh. He’s saying that the only way Helena330, MandaJo, ITD, etc could be mods is through affirmative action. SMH.

ETA SmartAleq, Sunny, etc

Post-post script: unless they’ve all been offered, but turned down, modships.

Yeah I caught that too. It’s just a given that the bar must be lowered because females and people of color are inferior to the master class of people. :rolleyes:

Or any mods of colour, too.

None of the ones who post *elsewhere *have mentioned it.

I know the sexes, but not the races, of the moderators, but isn’t at least one not white?

Everyone continues to be encouraged to report posts they believe violate rules. I think you’re misinterpreting what I’m saying, especially given I set up that comment with a fairly specific fact pattern beyond just reporting posts.

Imagine a scenario where everytime you, MrDibble, posts something, there are two or three people who will report it and say that due to your direct style and cutting wit, you are not in fact posting in good faith, but are being insulting to other posters. Like, every single time. How would you handle that?

I look at every report, and make an independent evaluation. Sometimes, I’ll agree, sometimes I’ll disagree, and other times could be borderline and I could see it from multiple points of view. I think that’s normal. Are you saying that if this was the fact pattern, after a certain number of reports you wouldn’t get a sense of your level of agreement, while still maintaining that independent evaluation? Because that’s what I’m saying. Add to that the chorus of reports are along the lines of “do your fucking job”, then yeah, I don’t think it’s a revelation to say that those do get discounted. I still read every report and make an independent evaluation.

Asimovian’s the only recent one I know of, and they’re no longer a mod. Sure, any of the others *could *be - and to Samuel, their username might as well be Token, apparently.

If it’s the same 2 or 3 posters always and only reporting the one poster (me)? I’d PM them to get a new hobby. Or else.

If those same 3 posters are *also *regular reporters of other legit violations, I might question whether I was, in fact, the asshole.

I can’t parse this sentence, could you rephrase it, please?

Those should be. Only those, even if they’re complaining about the same post as other, not-rude, reports. That wasn’t the style of thing your other post indicated - it seemed to indicate that both merely persistent as well as rude reports would get discounted if they were all about the same post or poster.

Sorry, that doesn’t jibe with what you said. It still seems like you *do *let the weight of reports impact your decisions, in a negative fashion.

It’s in-line with his earlier comment referencing that, of course, Blasey-Ford would want to have sex with “a high-status” male. It’s a view of the world where others- women and minorities - are inherently inferior and desire the goodwill/approval of their superiors at all times.

That *was *a bit of a dog whistle, wasn’t it?