Poor person: “How do you expect me to get health care?!”
[del]Goldfinger[/del]Republican: “[del]No, Mr Bond[/del]Poor Americans, I expect you to die.”
This argument always makes me laugh, because…well, isn’t the whole point of democracy to serve the people you represent? Guess what…old white dudes are a small minority.
You don’t have to try hard at all. Romney and Ryan are saying that poor people and black people and women and Hispanics don’t vote for the Republican party and they feel it means there’s something wrong with poor people and black people and women and Hispanics. They need to stop and consider the possibility that there’s something wrong with the Republican party.
It literally astounds me that people like him cannot seem to understand that a healthy workforce is a productive workforce, which in turn means a solid bottom line for their employers. When you’re sick, or your family is sick and you have to worry about how you’re going to pay the doctor bills, work tends to take second place. Sick or hungry kids make for poor students, and poor students don’t get very far, and our country suffers as a result. You want to cut medicare? Want to cut food stamps? Then make sure your citizenry is healthy and educated, and the problem will eventually fix itself in large part. Obama (and anybody with a brain) is in it for the long game, not the short political gain.
Don’t ever change, OMGaBC. Keep on reminding us how totally fucked up and underhanded your party is, and why we should bother fighting back. You remind us that even if it seems as if we’ve won the battle, there is still a political war going on.
Thank you for keeping us on our toes, dude.
That sentence needs to be taken out and shot. I’ve read it about five times, and I can’t make the negatives add up right. I’m pretty sure it says the opposite of what you mean.
Give it a year. The Medicaid expansion will only be rejected by a few red states, and only for one election cycle. “My opponent prevented you from getting nearly free health care, not out of the state budget, but paid for by the federal government for several years, just to make an ideological point. And he/she gets his/her health care paid for by the government, by the way.” is just too good a campaign speech. Even the Republicans will get on this bandwagon. They have to, or they can give up the vote of the unemployed, disabled, veterans, working poor, parents, students, AND the elderly and see who’s left.
Fundamentally, the issue that the Right has is that they argued against a largely fictious version of the ACA (death panels, rationed care, huge costs to businesses, etc.), not the one that actually passed. Most folks like the real ACA once they’re exposed to it, and Romney’s loss ended the last chance that could kill the ACA before anyone got a chance to see it work.
The bit about Ryan’s statement that I can’t understand, is why is it considered newsworthy? Anyone who’s paid any attention at all to politics in the past few decades knows that cities overwhelmingly tend Democratic while rural areas tend Republican, and that a big part of any politician winning is in getting good turnout from their base. So to the statement that Obama won, in large part, because he got high turnout in urban areas, I say “Duh”.
Oh come on, they aren’t that heartless.
They expect you to pick yourself up by your bootstraps, borrow $10 million from your parents and start a business.
Or knuckle down and work five jobs to support yourself while you put yourself through school in order to get that higher paying job.
Or pray really hard and Jesus will provide.
Or just never get sick or injured.
To quote The Lion in Winter: “Let us strike a flint and see.”
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that Obama lost the “white” vote and yet won the popular vote. The Republicans are far too busy shitting their pants to think properly.
Florida Governor Scott Drops Opposition to Health Law
Offered without comment.
Or die.
That’s true, but the same thing happened in 2008. Republicans got around 55 percent of the popular vote in each of the last few presidential elections, but Gore in 2000 and Obama in 2008 still won the popular vote and minority voters did not make up the deficit for Kerry. This time Romney got almost 60 percent of the white vote and still lost the popular vote by around 3.5 million.
That IS how they think.
Don’t you realize healthcare is something that should be considered a luxury item - if you can’t afford it, you can’t have it.
So either get off your lazy, welfare collecting ass and get a job or just put more Mercurochrome[sup]TM[/sup] on it and STFU.
Hear hear, and further, preventative care only costs a very small fraction of chronic / emergency care.
Also, just a question here given that Obama won the “non white” (I hate that term) vote…
By and large, aren’t many of those groups (from Asians to Latinos etc) fiscally conservative? Aren’t they rather big believers in working hard, prodiving for yourself, living within your budget etc?
So what does it say in general that Obama gets so much support from this demographic?
A more detailed analysis of the issue though is interesting.
Other factoids:
Depends who you ask, I’m thinkin’.
I think Mitt and all the other Republicons are absolutely correct. This is a nation full of takers, not like the rich people who have earned everything they have through hard work. And people don’t deserve health care if they don’t have enough money. And our biggest problem is illegal aliens and a lack of wars. I strongly suggest they keep up this line of argument, with greater volume, and pointing out how all who disagree with them are not real Americans. I’d contribute to that campaign. The dumb people who voted for Obama just didn’t hear the message.
Poe’s Law, dude.