As has been noted, it’s not unusual at all to have a Dodger starter pulled before or during his third time around a lineup, especially in a game where his spot in the batting order is coming up and they’re short on runs. The bullpen has been excellent at managing for five innings. Asking six outs of Kenley is an awful lot, though, particularly against that offense.
As for Maeda, he has been groomed specifically to face righties, and he came in during a stretch of five consecutive righties in the Astros’ order. Per the formula, he eas going to leave after that no matter how well he was pitching. Again, it usually works.
In an ideal world, Ross Stripling would have pitched the 7th and left Morrow and Jansen with an inning apiece. But Stripling really hasn’t been effective at ALL since August, and I was not happy he was brought in. His brief appearance was a costly one.
Not sure how I feel about this. I want Brian Cashman back as the highest priority. I know I mentioned that earlier. Girardi is a good manager, who seemed to get a lot out of teams but he is also frustrating at times of course. My biggest worry is who is in the candidate pool to replace him? In the end, it will probably be a by the book and by the numbers guy. Gut feel managers have gone the way of the dinosaur anyway.
[del]My understanding is this is Joe’s decision and he’ll be stepping away for a few years in theory.[/del]
ETA: And the Daily News is reporting that is was the Yankees decision. Color me surprised if correct.
I would be shocked. I’m sure he would love it but I am not very impressed with Baker overall. I think if George was alive, you would be right, but with Hal running the show, I would guess it won’t be Dusty.
There isn’t a chance in hell it will be Dusty Baker. John Farrell, perhaps? Just kidding, but as What Exit said, it’s not going to be an old school, seat of the pants manager like Baker.
Yeah, given the information provided in this thread, it did not necessarily seem like a completely bone-headed move like when Maddon took out Kyle Hendricks in the fifth with the Cubs Game 7 WS last year. I mean, it all somehow worked out in the end, but, as a Cubs fan, boy was I fucking pissed at the game management.
The trouble is, if he leaves the pitcher in, and the pitcher gets hit hard the next inning, then everyone castigates him for not having the stones to yank the pitcher earlier. I think it’s a pretty no-win situation, managing.
I think it’s going to Rom Thomson or Al Pedrique. Cashman probably knows already and fired Girardi accordingly. Perhaps there will be an actual interviewing process, but I doubt it.
I think Tony Pena deserves a shot. Whoever gets it, I hope they get to carry more position players and fewer pitchers next year. How many times in late innings has there not been a decent bat on the bench? Too many.
Looks like N.Y. followed Boston down the path of “what have you done for me lately”, dumping good, classy but understated baseball guys in favor of the new hot hire (with a probable short life span).
Sports Illustrated has a story suggesting that Girardi just wasn’t right for today’s analytics-driven game. Wasn’t it the GM and staff who were supposed to handle that?
I hear Bobby Valentine is available.
It’d be nice to see Terry Francona win it all in 2018.
I don’t understand this. I’m analytically minded, and my analysis shows that the AVERAGE Girardi team went 91-71, and that is ten years he won more games than any other manager. Analytically speaking, it was very unlikely the Yankees would win 91 games this year, and yet they did. Analyzing the facts, it appears to me his Yankee teams never had a losing record, even in a few years they really should have. I’ve no idea how they won 84 games LAST year. I’m just, you know, going by the numbers and all that, but the Yankees under Girardi had a higher winning percentage in the playoffs than they did in regular season play.
What was the guy hired to do that he was not doing?
I’d be stunned if the Yankees hired Baker. There could not be a more wrong guy for that job. He was wrong for the Nats job, too. I’ve said it before, Dusty is a guy who can take a team from bad to pretty good, but he can’t seem to take good teams to championships.
ETA: I do agree that Girardi would be great for Washington.
I think Teix summed it up well. Basically Girardi is being replaced for a better communicator and someone a bit younger that will relate better to all the kids and someone that will follow the analytics even closer. I think Joe did an very good job and won’t be easy to replace but he did seem to manage very tight this year and he is a fairly poor communicator to the press and by reports upstairs within the organization also.
I think it will be hard to replace him and someone like Dusty would be a disaster. Expect to see someone that Cashman already has ties with.
Well, Darvish certainly didn’t shine tonight. Nor did our 3 and 4 hitters who are cold as ice. Better turn it around quick boys in blue, if you want to play more games at Chavez this year.
The contrast between the managers and their handling of their pitching staffs is interesting. Hinch rode McCullers and Peacock a while each, and then Roberts used six pitchers, Darvish, Maeda, Watson, Morrow, Cingrani, and Stripling.