Astros are interviewing Buck Showalter and other candidates for the managing position. On the one hand, from a pure “let’s keep winning” perspective, sticking to bench coach Joe Espada would make the most sense, but they might feel that they need to signal that they’re seriously changing course instead of just paying the fine and pushing forward. (Much as paying the fine and pushing forward is the American way.)
If the Astros promote a coach they would likely give him the title of interim manager and see how he does this year.
To be fair, the individual to which you refer was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1985; at that time, he was extremely well-known and popular (having parlayed his football fame into a career as an actor and television host).
If there were dark things about his personality or life at that time, I don’t think that they were widely known. The murders occurred nine years after his induction into the PFHOF, and the robbery/kidnapping incident occurred another 13 years after that.
I don’t know if the PFHOF has any rules by which they might boot an inductee from the Hall due to ill behavior (during his career, or afterwards) that comes to light after induction; if they did, I suspect that it would have happened by now, in this case.
MLB leader in hits (4,256), singles, games played, at bats and plate appearances.
160 home runs
17 time All-Star
Lifetime batting average of .300+
Career war of 80+
12 straight years of war 4+
Isn’t that better than average for a hall of famer?
You’re right. I just hope he gets inducted before he dies.
And a bunch of us hope he dies 50 years before they ever seriously reconsider him for the HOF.
Beltran out as Mets manager
“Mutually part ways” my ass. They dumped him fast before the Astros/Red Sox shitsplatter headed their way.
Good for the Mets.
That was a short lived managerial stint. Go Mets!
How big is the club of managers who have been fired before their first game?
I thought you meant better PERSON, sorry.
Among HOFers, I guess it depends how you measure. By WAR he’s better than more than half; by wins above average, he’s not.
Rose’s career analytical stats are dragged down by the last six or seven years of his career, during which he was one of the worst players in baseball. Had he retired after the 1981 season he would in a lot of respects be a greater player, even though he wouldn’t have the career hits record. His insistence on writing himself into the lineup just so he could set the record, rather than playing better players, was honestly kind of gross, but the press wouldn’t take him to task for it.
They had to fire the manager before he started managing. It’s the most Mets thing ever.
Sure, he had maybe 2 or 3 good years left in him after he left the Reds and he was spent by the time he came back but his career was good enough by the time he left the reds to justify his spot based purely on play.
RickJay:
It is, isn’t it? It was done by the Diamondbacks a number of years back, but the subject was a former Met.
Alabama fired a FB coach before he coached a game, Mike Price. ND had a coach quit before coaching a game due to lying on his resume, George O’Leary
A few coaches accepted a job and then backed out. One of those was Bobby Cremins who left Georgia Tech for his alma mater South Carolina , he changed his mind and stayed at GT.
By this point, most people who aren’t Jets fans have probably forgotten that Bill Belichick was head coach of the New York Jets for about 24 hours. The day after the Jets announced Belichick would be replacing the retiring Bill Parcells, at his introductory press conference, Belichick announed that he was stepping down, and he was hired by the Patriots shortly after.
I did not recall Belichick quitting the Jets job.
I worked at a place where a guy quit his job at 10 AM on his first day. He got a better offer.
Former player says HOF manager was using video to steal signs in the 80s. If true does the HOF remove La Russa?
No.
It seems like you keep trying to make all violations equal.
Thus far this rules violation has never meant you’re not qualified for the Hall. To do so retroactively would be strange at best.
Cheating is not a big rules violation? Ask the Astros, Alex Cora, Beltran, etc. I don’t think the HOF kicks La Russa out if guilty but it would not shock me if they did. HOF can do whatever they want. MLB does not control what they do.
Even before Bill Cosby was convicted of his crimes some schools revoked his honorary degrees. For some reason a few did not revoke his degree. All together about 90% of the schools revoked his degree.
I forgot to add , it’s a bit ironic if true because La Russa graduated from FSU law school after his playing days were over. He never really practiced law , he decided to stay in baseball instead.
I worked at a place where a guy took his lunch break on his first day and just never came back.
We did tech support for a software suite for medical clinics (billing, scheduling, records, etc.). He seemed shell-shocked when he found out we actually did troubleshooting and didn’t read from a script. Our manager clearly didn’t interview him very well.