I also remember someone leaving for lunch on day 1 and not returning.
Speaking of interviews we hired a Chinese woman whose English was pretty bad. After she started working one guy who interviewed her said “Wow her English is bad” and he was the guy who gave her the job offer.
A guy kinda remembering a thing that he says LaRussa did even though he didn’t play on the team until after LaRussa was gone 32 years ago is, well, not much of a basis for a major suspension.
I’m guessing MLB could talk to guys who played for the White Sox when La Russa was the manager if they want to look into this. But they might be too busy talking to recent cheaters.
Hell, it’s been a longstanding tradition for some voter(s) to not vote for even the most obvious candidates. Even Babe Ruth only got 95% of the vote, and until Mariano Rivera last year, no player had ever gotten 100% of the BBWAA vote.
Yeah, I think it’s stupid if someone did it because of an agenda. But if Ted Williams, Stan Musial, Hank Aaron, etc. weren’t unanimous, Jeter will live. 396 out of 397 ain’t bad.
The only thing that matters is in or out. That is it.
Suppose, though, the writer didn’t have an agenda, but just felt there were ten other guys he wanted to vote for and he figured Jeter didn’t need his vote. I mean, the way it works encourages that exact decision. It’s a logical response in game theory terms.
Anyway, as a Canadian, I am glad Larry Walker is in. It was going to be close.
I would not have been outraged just if he hadn’t made it. Better players aren’t in. I would say Walker is, I dunno, the 100th greatest player of all time? 110th? Somewhere between 90 and 130 I guess. That’s deserving (there are more than 200 players in, and 100 would be far too few IMHO) but he’s not Willie Mays. What I was worried about was that he’d get like 74.8% of the vote.
Schilling goes in next year, I think. Pettitte goes in sometime in the next few years as he is being compared with people like Tim Hudson and Mark Buehrle.
The guys who improved in the voting but kind of didn’t improve are Bonds and Clemens, who edges up a little bit but only by a couple of points. Both have only two years left before lapsing and having to wait for some committee in the future.
Someone voted for JJ Putz. I assume it was a joke.
The one that fascnates me is Omar Vizquel, who got more than 50 percent and with seven years left is now, at worst, a coin flip to make it. No one in the BBWAA thought Vizquel was a Hall of Famer when he was playing; if they did, explain to me why, in his entire career, he was only mentioned in MVP voting in one season, and finished sixteenth. I have to think that if a guy almost never gets brought up in the conversation “here’s a dude who was one of the ten most valuable players in the league” he is maybe not a top HOF candidate.
I bet there isn’t any other serious HOF candidate of whom that can be said.
Yeah, I gotta admit, Vizquel is a head scratcher. Should he make it in we might have a new winner of ‘least deserving’.
In terms of Jeter? 538 had a pretty good argument today that Jeter’s candidacy was iffier than people make it out to be. He was a great player, but there are serious holes in the argument for his enshrinement among the Ruths, Spahns and Mays.
Candidacy for the HOF? It doesn’t say anything of the kind. It just says that perhaps he didn’t merit selection unanimously. The worst knocks are that he never won a season MVP (though it’s arguable that he should have won one or more) and had relatively poor defensive stats. But his standings on hits and WAR for shortstops made him a shoo-in despite those drawbacks.
No no no. I’m not being clear. He’s clearly a player deserving of the HoF. But being held up as a top ten player of all time - with Spahn, Ruth, Mays et al - is just not indicated.
There is no way in hell he is a top 10 player of all time. Who ever claimed that? I am one of the biggest Jeter fans on the board and I know better than that without hesitation.
Is this about missing the unanimous by 1 vote? It is not the same. Different voting styles in the past, obviously.
There will be another unanimous player in the next 5-10 years I’m sure, but there are still enough old-timer voters left to leave Mariano a special exception for a little bit longer.
Lou Whitaker actually did almost as badly. He was mentioned just once in MVP balloting, like Vizquel. That was 1983, when he hit .320 with 40 doubles and won a gold glove award at second base. Unlike Vizquel, he finished eighth rather than sixteenth, though. So, top ten, if barely.
I know Whitaker was not as appreciated in his day as he is in now. Still, I thought this single MVP mention was surprising.