Again, I’m with Holly 100%. I think it’s a mixture of reasons why women are choosy, and guys aren’t. As far as the attitude of society towards promiscuity, it seems to me that it is changing, painfully slow, but it is changing. People are starting to understand that sex is not an evil thing. America still has a long way to go to catch up with the rest of the world in accepting sex and nudity as a natural part of life. I always find it amusing to note too, that the people calling girls sluts, are the people who aren’t getting laid. If we go out, and my wife is dressed to kill, she’s called a bitch and sometimes a slut, even to her face. But it’s the non-attractive people that do it, so I can only assume jealousy.
Sua… 5% of your dates end in sex? You trollop!!! (j/k) Again, right on the mark. I don’t think I have EVER gotten laid on the first date in my life. Even the “easy” girls, were never THAT easy… course, I’m not “follow around the mall” material either so maybe it was just me:)
Drunken pickup?! I’ll have you know that I was only picked up one time in my life while I was drunk! (ended up marrying her, but that’s a whole story in itself)… The pickups I attempted when drunk, however, never proceeded beyond immediate disaster:) Okay, so besides not being the cutest damn thing, I’m not exactly the smoothest motherfucker either… but while we are on the subject Sua… wanna go out about three times ??
I think I’d have to agree with Badtz Maru on this one. I just don’t cheat on my wife because she’s a very dear person and she trusts me, something I wouldn’t abuse. Now, I don’t for a minute believe that monogamy is natural, there are very few women I see without at least a subliminal thought or two in my head about what she’s be like. Just curiousity though, no intention of acting on it and it harms no one.
I went shopping with my 14 year old nephew at the shopping mecca known as West Edmonton Mall the other day. When he was done blowing his paycheque on skateboard gear I told him I’d take him out for lunch, his choice. Being a normal teenage boy he asked (with a smile) if we could go to Hooters.
So we went to Hooters for lunch and I should point out that neither of us had ever eaten there. I was quite shocked at the lack of apparel and my only thought was that the people serving me my lunch need to be wearing more clothing. On the the other hand, my nephew was in heaven and commented he would be the envy of his friends.
My phone rang a couple of times over lunch and I spoke with Lola and the boy’s mom, my sister. They were both mildly shocked at our choice in eateries and Lola really thought I was joking. I am so fortunate to be related to such open minded people. I’m sure that in some households a visit to Hooters would be grounds for divorce, or murder.
The most important thing to me was that the food was pretty good and in my opinion, the women were passable.
I really am a bona fide committed monogamist. I really don’t find many other women all that attractive and when I do it is usually because of something besides their physical appearance. I doubt that there is a woman alive who could cause me to stray from my beloved. We have so much going for us besides the daily mind blowing sex like the other girls in our life who just took all the pots and pans out of the cupboard so they could make some music…
I just want to say that I am a woman who drives a Wrangler and I take Wranglerette’s choice of screen names personally.
This reminds of me of my not-so-Christian not-so-friends who upon hearing that I didn’t believe in hell said, “I hope for your sake, you’re right.” I steam when I read about Christian’s and their love of “God’s Law.” They’re hypocrites that pick and choose just like the rest of us. They get in such a tizzy that we didn’t choose the same ones they did. See our many religious debates to see cites of biblical rules people follow and don’t.
Enough of that, now for my 2c on monogamy. I think monogamy is important to show commitment and respect for your partner. However people who cheat, are not to be condoned or reviled (unless they’re your spouse.) They have made a decision that they are in some way needing of some extra attention and that this is they way they’ve gone about doing it. In a society that simultaneously embraces sexual freedom and lifetime commitment it can be difficult to know which road you want to take. People who make the decision to violate the monogamy agreement will have to suffer the consequences of that violation. But they are the one who is completely responsible for making that conscious decision.
Another word on sex and its supposed equality with love in the minds of men and women:
Sex does not always equal love. Sometimes it does but not always. Nobody argues that you can have love without sex. Why is it so hard to have sex without love?
I’ve always compared sex and love to cereal and milk. When apart they’re tasty. When together they’re tastier. But they’re not the same. (Together for very long and it’s a big soggy mess.)
I say have fun. Don’t hurt people, play nice. And ladies, sometimes sex (and sexual attraction) is just that–don’t
read so much into it (or require that your partners do.)