Moral Dilemma: How Can We Eat Without Killing Anything For Food?

It’s probably the font of all knowledge on the island of San Seriffe.

Soylent Green. :stuck_out_tongue:

The OP does have a point. I think that is why many people start their meals with “Lettuce Pray”.

Not all foods are foods from death, there are a few foods of life, that don’t contain death - milk and honey are 2 such foods, and one reason I suspect God was giving such a land (land of milk and honey) to the Israelites in the Bible as His reward is life. The placental connection between mother and baby also would be a source of life for the child, as well as the afterbirth which is often consumed by the animal mother (a return of life from child to mother). Fruits and vegetables likewise are meant to consume, having the seeds pass through you into fertile ground for the next generation of fruit/veg plant. Unfertilized eggs are likewise the gift of life from what was to be the mother if the egg was fertilized, so again a food of life.

Peace

I suggest you stop eating all of those grains, fruits and vegetables. Do you have any idea what monocultures do to bees?

Before I click that link, I have to know: does that video come from a reputable font of knowledge like the Helvetica Institute? Or may be a Nicolas Cage movie?

No it’s a clip from Vanishing of the Bees where Author and food activist Michael Pollan discusses monoculture farming and the worldwide disappearance of honeybees known as Colony Collapse Disorder.

Honey is food you are stealing from the mouths of bees just as milk is food you are stealing from animal children. Plus those children are either eaten (veal, lamb, chevon) or turned into milk-making adults.

Fruits are indeed decoy seed transport systems but if you subvert this by pooping into a toilet, are you thwarting the will of God? Ditto mushrooms.

Eating roots and leaves usually involves killing the plant.

Unfertilized bird eggs are only possible when the natural mate of the bird is removed, and the laying period of bird is artificially extended, as in the wild a hen for example would only lay a dozen or so eggs per year and then hatch them out.

I think the only way out of this moral dilemma is to learn how to photosynthesize.

I did. It’s a load of bollocks.

I really don’t eat all that many of those, as I feel that more foods are also foods of life, though my interpretation becomes very spiritual and I didn’t want to go into all that but here goes:

In short, we are all children of Mother Earth, plants serve the purpose of providing food + O2, removing waste + CO2 basically exactly what the womb does and the earth to me is the womb of Mother Earth, so every plan it part of the whole mother, and it is gift of life from mother to child. This is why I believe God gave all the seed bearing plant to A&E in the Bible.

Going further, as far as animals go. I consider them part of the ‘child’ and not the mother, as a child in the womb develops it becomes necessary for some resources to be consumed and redistributed for the greater good of the child (which is all animal life combined including humans) which allows us to eat animals as well.

The overwhelming factor of food choices to me is love and thankfulness for what ever level of food you can accept.

Peace

So you are saying plants not sentient beings? Well how do you explain why plants exhibit a form of elementary consciousness and how they use heliotropism as a survival mechanism. I think your way of thinking is a “load of bollocks”.

So basically you are saying you would like to eat your brothers and sisters? What kind of sick philosophical insight into your mind is that?

They’re not. That comes from a vegetarian who wonders if you’re living in a city while eating berries and nuts.

I hate the moral dilemma of having any sort of unprocessed and horribly maimed plant come in contact with my food, so I avoid that at all costs. I will break down and wrap my hamburger or all beef hotdog in a bun, and won’t think twice about that as long as there is cheese involved to cushion the pain. And every once in a while I’ll have a baked potato…as long as it’s slathered in butter, cheese and bacon, to cushion the blow…

Rocks exhibit a form of elementary consciusness as well. They expand and contract in response to changes in temperature. I wouldn’t dream of harming a rock, so I don’t eat them.

I see how you dodged the rest of it, why? Because it proves plants are sentient being? Nice try!

Because it doesn’t prove that at all. I don’t know what you mean by “elementary consciousness,” but plants don’t respond to human speech and the fact that they bend toward the sun doesn’t prove consciousness. And I’m not ducking questions. You’ve dodged a few and you’ve also supported your arguments with junk science, a fictional citation, and a YouTube video.

Will no one think of the soil? Each and every year plant life the earth over rapes the soil of it’s nutrients. The soil is defenseless against this violent attack by plants plunging their roots deep into the soil without the soils consent and then sucking away by force what it wants giving nothing in return.
If dirt could scream it would.

Phototropism isn’t consciousness. If plants could choose whether or not to be attracted to light, then you might have a point.

In any case, the Backster Effect has been completely debunked - it’s bollocks. Worthless.

If you’re serious, JellyBeanz (and I very much doubt this), please describe what you’ve eaten in the last 24 hours.