Scores dead in cities across Iraq. The U.S. troops are supposed to pull out in December – what are the bombers protesting now?! What do they hope to accomplish that is not already accomplished?!
Perhaps they are trying to get us to stay, to get some politician to start talking about “we can’t leave yet, we aren’t done!” It’s useful to America’s enemies to have us in Iraq.
“They pulled out after those bombings! We drove 'em out!”
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Why do you think they need something new to protest? The bombings have never stopped.
The bombings in the Arab worlds haven’t ever stopped. Unless you have been living under a rock for the last 30 years haven’t you noticed a huge amount of violence assosiated with Muslims?
And no, I am not a Muslim hater, but the reality is this group of people even if it is only the extreamist only seem to know one thing. Get mad about something and kill people. Negotiations are not part of the way they think.
When you have a population that uses religion as a justification to kill, combined with scores of young men willing to sacrifice themselves you have a neverending loop of violence. Bombings are used because guns aren’t efficent enough.
This is not true.
It is not synonymous, the words Muslim and Arab, and the palestinian terrorists of the past had many christian arabs among them.
No you are repeater of ordinary senseless bigotry.
The bombing in Irak to give a real answer to this question is between Sunni and Shia; Americans being there or not does not matter to the hateful extremists.
I think the various factions are getting ready to fill the power vacuum that will result from the US leaving.
Sort of opening shots in the coming civil war.
Nothing new, this is what happened when the monarchy was overthrown (and General Kaseem took control)…later, when Kaseem was ousted (and Saddam Hussein took power), the same things happened.
Another chapter in a place that has been unstable for over 60 years.
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This is not true.
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How is pointing out fact being a bigot? When a suicide bombing happens almost always the phrase Allah followed by some religious justification is heard. The book they refer to for the justification is the Koran and last I looked it is mainly Muslims who follow such teachings.
Accusing me of being a bigot ignores the problem. The TSA continues to strip search old ladies and check the diapers of babies looking for explosives. A quick check of history shows that there were no old ladies or babies responsible for the hijacking and destruction on 9/11. Wouldn’t it stand to reason that you pay special attention to people of Arab decent and Muslims when searching? Is it profiling? Yes, but that is because these are the people doing the acts.
Or let’s put it this way, if a bank has just been robbed and 50 witnesses at the scene say a 6’ tall African American did the robbery does it make sense to stop and interogate caucasian or oriental men in the immediate area? No, but I guess I would be a bigot if I said to pay particular attention to any African American males you see?
As far as your point about most bombings are not a result of Islamic/Muslim extreamist. Let’s take a look:
Between 1993 and 2001, all of the major attacks or attempts against US interests stemmed from militant Islamic jihad except for the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. (Terrorism 2002–2005". FBI. 2005. Retrieved April 9, 2010.)
In 2001 nearly 3,000 people were killed in the massive September 11 attacks organised by al-Qaeda and perpetrated by Saudi nationals (Jordy Yager, “Former intel chief: Homegrown terrorism is a ‘devil of a problem,’” The Hill. July 25, 2010. )
As of July 2011, there have been 51 homegrown jihadist plots or attacks in the United States since the September 11 attacks. (Saslow, Eli (July 12, 2011). “A one-man mission to stop homegrown Somali terrorism in U.S.”. The Seattle Times. Retrieved July 12, 2011.)
According to EU Terrorism Report, however, there were almost 500 acts of terrorism across the European Union in 2006, but only one, the foiled suitcase bomb plot in Germany, was related to Islamist terror (500 Terror Attacks in EU in 2006 – But Only 1 by Islamists, Spiegel Online)
In the September 2004 Beslan school hostage crisis more than 1,000 people were taken hostage after a school in the Russian republic of North Ossetia-Alania was seized by a pro-Chechen multiethnic group aligned to Riyad-us Saliheen Brigade of Martyrs (Foreign Affairs, January/February 2008, p.74, “The Myth of the Authoritarian Model”)
And of course these are only 5 examples of literally hundreds of examples. I would be more than happy to identify and cite all of them if time permited. However we would end up right back where we started. I would voice the opinion that the majority (not every single instance however) of terror attacks around the world are comminted by Islamic/Muslim people. I will further voice an opinion that these attacks are the rule, not the exeception. Violence is the only way this group voices its opinion. You will counter with something like I am an un-educated, flag waving American redneck bigot.
I firmly believe that the recent bombings in Iraq would happen if our troops were there or if they pulled out. This is a way of life. I really don’t understand your position of defending these people and their agenda and turning a blind eye to the fact that this is being done in the name of Islam and the people doing it are by and large of the Muslim faith.
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Oh an before you rip on me for the above quote, I included it so you cannot accuse me of cherry picking facts to show only bombings involving Islamist. I realize that there are plenty of other terrorist in this world, but the OP wasn’t concerned with bombings and acts of terroism in Irleland or The Gambia.
I thought they had more or less settled the Sunni-Shi’a thing by ethnically-cleansing each other from their neighborhoods.
Probably because your basic assumption that they were all always about the US was wrong. As other posters have said, they never really stopped, and the violence has more to do with the basic conflict between local groups and tribes than it did because of us big, bad Americans. We basically just let the genie out of the bottle when we invaded…the resentment and hatred had simmered under the surface in that region for decades or longer, and was just kept in check by Saddam’s iron hand and a minority faction in who’s best interest it was to keep the majority population under their thumb.
Good grief…really?? They hope to accomplish the killing of their enemies, the settling of scores and the gaining of power for whichever faction they are devoted to.
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Please tell me you’re joking. Please tell me you realize the ethnic cleansing is NOT an effective way of mending the rift between two peoples-- that settling of scores for said ethnic cleansing can span generations.
To be precise, these killings were carried out by radical Sunnis, and targeted Shia communities such as Kut, and Shia holy cities such as Najaf and Karbala, as well as police stations, government buildings, security officials, etc.
Because we’re reducing our troop levels to the extent that we can’t really do much over there, Sunni extremists are trying to ramp up the violence again. A bunch of Sunni factions are doing this for various reasons. The nutjob Islamists want to overthrow the Iranian-backed Shiite government that we put in power. The Sunni nationalists want to use violence against Shiites to get a better deal for their ethnic group – they did used to run the country until we intervened and put the Iranian-backed former terrorist groups in charge, and they’d like as good a deal for their peeps as they can make in the new Iraq.