(pointedly ignoring SINsApple/NA/whatever)
So, Diane, how 'bout this? When you see someone unnecessariy pummelling a newbie why not throw a penalty flag into the thread?
I mean, I’m sure you have done so, but maybe you could make it more pointed. I do want to see newbies welcomed and encouraged to join into the spirit of things. I do think that MRunner got a little stomped on, but after all the trolls and sockpuppets, I’m not really surprised that boardmembers are a little trigger happy.
Phouka just FTR, SINsapple is not the same person as NewtonsApple, just like Soulfrost and DavidB are not the same.
(please go back to your regular programming)
Could somebody send me an application form for the clique?
If not, which is the best forum for continuous whining about how I’m being victimised by the SDMB illuminati?
Ta.
I never touched him, ref, honest!
There is a clique, and everyone’s in it but YOU! Neener Neener Neener.
(Directed, of course, to everyone and no one in particular.)
I have never really felt persecuted, ragged on or microscoped by any of the regs, so could you please rectify that?
Actually, I think only those who post in an attempt to impress other people (and not to please only themselves) are the ones who end up feeling inadequate and unaccepted.
I may be wrong, though.
Maybe when my time comes
I will have guessed.
Chrome Toaster
Thanks Diane, I knew I liked Konrad for a reason.
Kellibelli, for a clique leader, you have been the nicest one yet. Can I join the clique, pleeeeeeeeze!!!
No, really, thanks for helping me stomp the belief that I am in any way connected to or a personality of Newton’s Apple. I may feel a bit of sympathy for the guy, but you are right, he is pretty freakin’ childish. And now. . .
Diane, I forbid you from posting any of your hyporcritical babblings in any thread I have ever posted in or will ever post in, GOT IT?!
Heheheh…now I see why NA did that, it is kinda funny. It makes you feel kinda high and mighty for a minute. . . sorta diane-ish.
“I celebrate myself, and sing myself, and what I assume you shall assume, for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.” --Whitman
I’m sure the two of you have a lot in common. He can’t read big words and you have a problem with comprehension skills (or are you ready to admit you were lying? Which is it?)
Oh, and don’t try to be Diane-ish - you don’t have the skill or the tallent to pull it off, but hey, I’m flattered that you want to be like me.
>^,^<
KITTEN
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.
I’m sure the two of you have a lot in common. He can’t read big words and you have a problem with comprehension skills (or are you ready to admit you were lying? Which is it?)
Oh, and don’t try to be Diane-ish - you could never pull off the walk or the eyelash flutter, but hey, I’m flattered that you want to be like me.
>^,^<
KITTEN
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.
Well, I must be a liar or a retard, eh? I couldn’t have just remembered incorrectly?
Perhaps your lackeys took it upon themselves, but they still defended you like you couldn’t do it yourself. That is what I was trying to say I don’t like. Let the flamee defend themselves. What have you done that makes your lackeys feel you are incapable of responding to a flame about you?
If I have an issue with you, you need to answer it. Not your little knights in shining armor. Like here in this thread. I flamed you (unfortunately I let it degenerate into something other than what it was) but no one stepped forward for you, they let you do it yourself. As it should be!
The cliques I don’t like consist of a bunch of users rallying around a flamee like the flamee cannot defend themselves. The most noticeable cases of this have always involved you. Period. End of story.
“I celebrate myself, and sing myself, and what I assume you shall assume, for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.” --Whitman
WTF!
Disregard the first reply, I locked up during my editing. The damn thing must have posted anyway.
Yes, I do know how to spell talent, so hold the lectures, dickheads. 
Posting fuck-ups kind of knocks the fuel from my flames. Shit.
>^,^<
KITTEN
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.
I dunno, let’s ask the masses.
Does anyone one here think I am incapable of defending myself? If so, please post a link.
No one on the DEAR DIANE thread claimed to be protecting me, in fact, I think I held my own pretty well. If they felt the need to chime in with their comments, that is their right. I did the same thing with MRunner. I thought a certain person was slamming him unfairly and I spoke up. I’ll do it again if I feel the need.
If you don’t think someone should defend another, well groovy - no one says you have to. Just don’t expect everyone else to follow your rules.
You are pathetically laughable. I again challenge you to find one instance where I did not answer an issue someone directly toward me. (Except of course any I didn’t see.)
If anything, I answer too much.
Bullshit.
You “mistakenly remembered” something that was very different than you described.
You are either lying again, can’t read, or you are retarded.
>^,^<
KITTEN
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.
I have clogs, so when do I get my membership card? Will you provide us with airfare and lodging?
Find my shape by the moonlight, why my thoughts aren’t so clear.
I think Diane is not completely off base. I have seen a few cases of people jumping unjustifiably, IMO, on a person (I don’t know if they were newbies or not; I never look and don’t care how many posts a person has). Usually there’s a reason, but sometimes there isn’t.
I’ve seen the following happen more than once: It starts out as a legitimate disagreement in a serious thread; one party is shown to be in error; rather than win gracefully - and often before the loser has a chance to accept gracefully - the winner manifests a need to “dance in the end zone” like an idiot; a group of posters forms to join in the pleasure of the dance and belittle the loser; the loser, feeling defensive, tries to rationalize that maybe they are not the complete moron they are accused of being - unfortunately they must do this from a position that has already been established to be wrong, which just makes it worse; the group, howling with delight, derides the loser, their family, their personal attributes, their country of origin, their internet service provider, the size of their brain, the size of their dick, and anyone who may have a similar name or email address.
This is called “stamping out ignorance”.
Okay, I’m exagerating a little, and it isn’t exactly the norm, but I have seen it occur. Often it happens to people who really aren’t all that good at argumentative discourse anyway, but I’m not sure that makes it legitimate.
Oh, and since this is the pit,
ReservoirDog is a fucking loser!
Ahem! As one who is certifiably bland, not to mention Pit-impaired, may I offer a counter observation?
Anyone who think Diane is incapable of standing up for herself, in any venue or against any comer, is either plain stupid or hopelessly deluded.
See, even folks who don’t post a lot may read read often. This is where you literally (pun intended) are known by your words. So frequent readers gain a pretty fair insight into how people argue, what matters to them and how they relate to other people.
It’s inexact, but over time, it works. So when someone who’s liked and respected comes under attack, it’s perfectly natural to step in and say, “wait a damned minute”. Best, this is a place where the flexible rules are applied to all, new or not.
It’s easy to get comfy and forget how scary it can be “breaking in” here. ::very wry smile:: I pissed in my Cheerios on my first post and got clobbered. But some “regs” stepped in and cut me some slack. But I just did the same damned thing to someone else just a few days ago. So it’s not a clique, just a venue with some communication hurdles.
So ease off, and don’t throw personalities around. Attacks around here are usually for cause, and even when they aren’t, they’re not wimpy.
Now to important stuff, does loving Dutch beer, cheese and killing every tulip I ever planted get me into the Dutch Clique?
Tied for 4K+ Most Popular Poster,
Veb
I can say “shit” and “bathroom” in the language (and necessarily in that order) and I have been in Double Dutch more than a few times, does that count?
>^,^<
KITTEN
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.
You may be certifiable, but I wouldn’t call you bland.
You better be nice or I’ll sic my lackeys on ya.
I wanna join the dutch clique! Except I hate tulips, and clogs give me blisters. I’m game for the beer, though…and I love windmills.
Felice
“There’s always a bigger fish.”
One last thing -
FWIIW Kel, I think it was cool of you to apologize to MRunner.
You better be nice or I’ll sic my lackeys on ya.
Hey!!! I asked Coldfire first!!!
When I said “if I have a problem with you, you need to answer it” I was speaking theoretically. I wasn’t saying you had done that.
Coming from someone who doesn’t want to provide proof herself, I find you the pathetically laughable one for challenging me to prove my statement.
As for my retard or liar status; I admitted I was mistaken in what I thought had happened. I actually just didn’t word things the way I should have. What I meant was the minute Konrad flamed you, it seemed like about thirty people hopped on there fast as fast could be to come to your aid and defense. I personally didn’t think you needed their help, and I didn’t see how their posts in any way contributed to the thread. I shouldn’t have said you sent them. I don’t see how that makes me a liar, a retard, or illiterate though.
I am basically saying that in my opinion, I think it is pretty childish to feel the need to hop to someone’s defense on the SDMB when it is very clear that everyone here (especially you) does not need help responding to a flame.
“I celebrate myself, and sing myself, and what I assume you shall assume, for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.” --Whitman
Nice rant, Apple.
Yawn.
Sorry, the Cliche Clique is not accepting new members at this time,