Most Liberals are Hateful and Nasty Individuals

It sounds like you made poor financial and career decisions. I don’t see why you think it’s your right to deny someone the compensation they earned just because they work for the government. I mean, it’s not fucking welfare- they are doing a job. Maybe you should have made smarter choices and sought similar work, or done a better job preparing for your retirement. Sounds like you need to stop being lazy and pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

I’m not talking about abortion guns. I thought that was clear in context.

Neither is it necessarily nor definitionally an “extreme ideology”.

Or antifactual, which was the question being responded to.

Amazing, isn’t it, that after over a century it is still possible to convince so many that socialism is another word for communist totalitarianism.

“Indeed, the only people who seem to think Obama displays even the slightest social democratic tendency are those who imagine that the very mention of the word ‘socialism’ should inspire a reaction like that of a vampire confronted with the Host.”

John Nichols

Blame the Communist totalitarians, they kept using that word.

And you deserved it. Do you not remember a single thing about the 2004 presidential campaign?!

Oy! Have you ever picked the *wrong *vampire!”

  • old, old joke

QFT.

Not so long ago, the two parties largely agreed on what problems we faced as a nation, but proposed different approaches to dealing with them.

Lately, the Republicans seem to have concluded that most of those things that everybody used to agree were problems, aren’t. From massive unemployment to climate change, from discrimination against gays to impediments to access to contraceptives - not a problem, at least not anything that the body politic should address. Hell, not even natural disasters like hurricanes.

This is the great political divergence of our time. What’s astounding is how little notice it’s gotten.

I remember when it was an obvious truism that “Politics is played between the 40-yard lines.”

I date the change to the rise of Newt Gingrich as GOP House leader, and his success in convincing his party that the way to power was to demonize rather than to convince the Democrats and their supporters. Viz. this memo, as evidence.

Ah, yes, but you always find those lines by measuring from the goalposts, you see. And, while you weren’t looking . . .

Good points, and thanks. However, I would point out that those who embrace alternative medicine mostly do not dismiss the validity of conventional, science-based medicine, but simply call it inadequate. The exceptions are too few to call mainstream.

The anti-nuke people I generally agree about, but would point out that their fallacy is more about considering too narrow and shallow a range of facts than in claiming arrant falsehoods to be fact.

Abortion guns? What an awesome idea! The NRA-crowd would love them because they’re guns, and us lefties would want one in every house because they do abortions.

On second thought, I suppose all guns can be abortion guns.

They already beat you to it.

Great idea-abortions would then be allowed under the “Castle Doctrine”, right?

Obligatory spot-on Family Guy reference:

Baby with a Gun

You believe that everybody used to agree that every item on your list was a problem?

Really?

Quite right, he should have used a term like “broad consensus” or “general agreement”. Excellent semantic nitpick, Counselor, you win again.

You’re familiar with the colloquial meaning of “everybody”, aren’t you? Dipshit.

I still don’t agree.

There’s more broad consensus NOW that climate change is a problem than at prior points in time. In other words, to say, “…the Republicans seem to have concluded that most of those things that everybody used to agree were problems, aren’t,” suggests that a once-broad consensus was once accepted by Republicans, but now they’ve changed their mind. I don’t think either Republicans or the country at large have moved from agreement to disagreement on that point – if anything, the trend has been the other way: TOWARDS broad consensus.

In the same vein:

[ul]
[li]massive unemployment – yes, there was always broad consensus in the past that this was a problem[/li][li]climate change – no, there wasn’t always broad consensus in the past that this was a problem[/li][li]discrimination against gays to impediments – no[/li][li]access to contraceptives – no[/li][/ul]