Perhaps you missed the part where she’s referred to as “the dog” (23 times, if my count is correct)?
Perhaps you didn’t actually read this thread?
Is this one of those threads where “sexist” only refers to saying bad things about women?
I found Single Ladies by Beyonce to be rather sexist. The underlying message is that it’s the man’s fault that the woman is seeing other guys because he didn’t want to commit to marriage. Au Contraire. I put forth Golddigger by Kanye West. If the guy’s got money and a good job, she won’t be seeing other guys. Odds are a guy came along with more money and a better job.
The song about “If God was a Woman” is rather sexist too. The premise is that somehow, women make better decisions than men. While it is true men are more likely to be in power and make more decisions overall, thus increasing the total number of bad decisions, it’s ludicrous to think women won’t make as many or more bad decisions if given the opportunity. That’s almost the definition of sexism.
2LiveCrew has been arrested for the sexism in their songs, but imho, they’re just telling the truth. It’s not the truth people want to hear, but it’s true enough (From Doo Wah Diddy):
She’ll suck on my dick if I buy her a rock (Beyonce turned the same idea into a women’s power anthem in Single Ladies.)
When I took her ass home the pussy smelled like hell (Yes, please, everyone, kill that funky smell, particularly if you catch the bus.)
She (first with her group) made a career of of sexist songs about how the man better pay all the bills, alternating with “independent women” empowerment anthems. I don’t know how much if any of the material she wrote herself- I was also thinking of single “If I Were a Boy”- but I know that was written by someone else and sold to her.
Is that what that song is about? If so, I’m stupid, because I always took it as a fathers plea to his daughter, offering advice, etc. In a similar vein to Father and Son.
Are you referring to “Legs?” That would be the one in which a shy and unassertive woman working in a strip mall meets a cute but meek guy, and their bosses and most everyone else hanging around are assholes and bullies towards them.
Then a trio of scantily-clad females drives up and gives the woman a physical makeover along with a crash course in assertiveness training, with the end result being the woman tells all the bullies to go to hell, makes the first move on the cute guy, and they ride off into the sunset.
I mean, I suppose you could find some sexism there if you delve deep enough into concepts of attractiveness as a component of self-worth, but that goes far deeper into cultural consciousness than a single video.
And I’d be a little cautious about worrying too much about “girl” or “woman” or whatever–song lyrics are as much about meter and rhyme as anything else.
Just read the Wiki article. Color me stupid. :smack:
Can’t be bothered, mostly. But basically: what Blake said.
A key misunderstanding on your part seems to be that you regard “being less than utterly considerate and respectful to a woman, and sometimes thinking of your own interests rather than hers” as inherently sexist. Sexism like racism is about regarding and or treating people of one sex (race) as being inferior. Being inconsiderate or disrespectful to a woman is not inherently sexist unless you are motivated by your sexism.
Calling a woman a dumbass is not inherently sexist: maybe she’s just a dumbass. If you wouldn’t call a man out for saying another man is ugly, but would call him out for saying a woman is ugly, then you are sexist, not him.
Treating all women as if they are precious petals who must be elevated onto a pedestal is highly sexist, since you are suggesting they are less resilient than men.
I think that your feelings on this subject are such that what you really meant your thread to ask was “What is the musical act that’s considered great that shows the greatest self centeredness or obnoxiousness towards a woman?”
Finally, there’s the terminological thing. When I was a kid, (around the time Led Zep were big) calling your lover* “woman” was not an insult or a failure to recognise her individuality. It was intended as an admiring acknowledgement of her womanliness. And while that might be sexist in, say, a business context, it hardly seems sexist in an erotic context, being a context in which the inherent differences between men and women hardly need to be denied.
*Heh, I used that word on purpose. Suck it up 
There’s a whole genre of vengeful cuckold: Papa Loved Mama (Garth Brooks), Delilah (Tom Jones), My Aim Is True (Elvis Costello), Radio Lover (George Jones).
I agree with Blake. The song starts with “Young girl, get out of my mind/My love for you is way out of line.” This isn’t the singer talking about a girl’s attraction for him. He’s singing about his attraction for her.
The lyric that bothers me is “my love for you is way out of line.” It seems to suggest that the character feels he is on the verge of committing a major social gaffe (and nothing more) by having sex with her. Whereas it SHOULD read, “my love for you is a felony crime” which is more in line with our current sensibilities. The lyrics trivialize having sex with an underage girl.
Weird. I always associate with phrases like “Damn, woman, you clean up nice!”
So paternalistic, he was actually mistaken for her dad!
If only you’d made this post a few years from now, we’d at least have a brilliant username/post combo to admire.
Now contrast with some for-real straight up sexism, like “Bitches Ain’t Shit”. Sexist-est part? Yeah, calling women bitches and hoes and tricks is sexist, but that’s not the most sexist part. It’s referring to Easy-E as “she”. Like the most insulting degrading thing Dre can say about Easy-E is to compare him to a woman. That’s pure mainline sexism.
Now I’ve heard everything.
Why is that even ‘gross’? Assuming everyone involved is 18+, etc.
I don’t find the song either sexist or creepy. For one thing, he’s being paternalistic towards someone he’s in a relationship with, not ‘women’ in general. I realize it’s fashionable nowadays (at least among some people) to insist that relationships be all about a ‘partnership between equals’ or whatever, but that certainly isn’t the traditional ideal for relationships between men and women, and some of us still subscribe to the traditional ideal. The song is pretty emblematic of what I’d say an ideal relationship between a man and his girlfriend/wife/etc. should be like. (I guess I’m the intended audience for the song, because I did find it sweet and sentimental).
For me, Wild World was always more of a father lamenting to his daughter about the bad world out there. She intent on leaving and his need to protect her. It sort of worked as a complement song to his Father and Son song, of the two not meeting eye to eye, again Father trying to impart his wisdom, on the life his Son will encounter. In that song Father and Son take turns in the verses so you get both sides of the story. Stevens doesn’t use the same device in Wild World. I wonder if he had written a verse or two from the female perspective it would come across differently.
However, If the song is about a relationship between a man and a woman, I agree, it is sexist to expect that any woman in a liberated society would cowtow to paternalism.
Of course many world religions are based in paternalism which is sexist towards women. He being Muslim, or if he were devout Catholic or Orthodox Jew, there is inherent sexism in how they chose to practice their faith. So it could be an honest reflection of that horrifying reality.
The Stones. Mick always seems to garble the lyrics so we don’t really want to know what he’s singing. Like Some Girls, the song about hooking up with all types of “girls” and all he gets in return is a dose of std, a kid, or a lighter wallet :
French girls they want Cartier
Italian girls want cars
American girls want everything in the world
You can possibly imagine
English girls they’re so prissy
I can’t stand them on the telephone
Sometimes I take the receiver off the hook
I don’t want them to ever call at all
White girls they’re pretty funny
Sometimes they drive me mad
Black girls just wanna get fucked all night
I just don’t have that much jam
Chinese girls are so gentle
They’re really such a tease
You never know quite what they’re cookin’
Inside those silky sleeves