My personal example is Guns N’ Roses’ “It’s So Easy.”
Sample lyric:
“You get nothing for nothing
if that’s what you do
Turn around bitch,
I’ve got a use for you
Besides, you ain’t got nothin’ better to do
And I’m bored”
Songs like “Can I Get A…” by Jay-Z don’t count, since it’s more of a flame war between him and a female rapper. Nor do songs like “Baby Got Back” by Sir Mix-a-lot count, since it’s just juvenile lust, not actual misogyny.
The video shows women with somewhat more mundane proportions…and the lyrics make fun of wasted-away models and such. Not too bad, at least as far as rap goes…
Something I should’ve made clear in the OP: this thread is in no way intended to celebrate misogyny. But the words to that Guns and Roses song have bothered me for years. I just wondered if there were any songs that were worse.
I personally LOVE women, especially Ruffian!
Oh, and AudreyK too!
Well I know some pretty misogynistic songs. The problem with some is that they go beyond simmple misogyism and reach the realm of shear parody. What I think is more hurtfull are the songs by established artists that casually throw in a small statement. For example Ween has some very over the top songs. “Baby Bitch”… Kool Keith has songs about dismembering and eating women, but they are taken to such an extreme that you would have to be an uptight asshole to really think they were misogyinistic.
Then you have someone like Brittany Spears…
Who does more damage to women’s self image?
Having my baby, the song by Neil Diamond, is only mildly misogynistic compared with the stuff you hear today.
It’s really dumb, though. Having my baby…what a lovely way of saying how much you love me…having my baby…what a lovely way of saying that you’re thinking of me. Please. If I want to let you know I’m thinking of you, I’ll send a Hallmark, not make a life-changing, lifelong physical, emotional, and financial commitment.
“A Lap Dance Is So Much Better when the Stripper is Crying” by the Bloodhound Gang probably falls into that “so-over-the-top-it’s-parody” category. The refrain goes something like:
A lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin’
It gives me such a thrill
When she rides me against her will
A lap dance is so much better . . . .
Pretty awful on the surface, but it’s sung in a goofy C & W voice with an Elvis-like hiccup on “thrill”, so I’m not sure if it counts.
I just thought of another one, though I’d be really surprised if any other dopers knew it. It’s by a late 80s/ early 90s band called Biff Bang Pow - the head Biffer was Alan McGee, the man who discovered Oasis. The song is called Song For A Nail and is basically McGee’s rant to a woman (I don’t know if she was a real woman or not) who he impregnated and who then went on to have the baby (the nerve of her! :rolleyes: ) “only to nail me to a cross”.
I love this band otherwise but that song genuinely gives me the creeps.
I wish I was Bobby’s Girl
I wish I was Bobby’s Girl
That’s the most important thing to me
And if I was Bobby’s Girl
And if I was Bobby’s Girl
What a thankful happy girl I’d be
I’m looking forward to hearing Ani DiFranco do a cover of this classic.
I’m having trouble recalling all of Guns&Roses songs, but wasn’t that one about S&M, not abuse, per se? Or was that a different one? I know they did at least one about it.
Damn it, first the monchichis, now this. My pop culture lobe appears to be having problems.
Of course, they also did * I used to Love Her, but I Had to Kill Her.* Which was substantially less funny once their singer got accused of spousal abuse . . .
Of course, a lot of people, (proably most) find strongly opposed, fu#$ked up, or even borderline abusive relationships to be more “romantic” than healty ones. So it’s not really surprising that a lot of songs are about them.
Are you thinking of Anything Goes? It has the following verse: “Tied up, tied down, back against the wall. Be my rubbermade baby and we can do it all tonight.”
I went and looked up some G N’ R songs. I can’t believe the things espoused in some of them. What’s even more surprising is that it bothers me now, but it didn’t ten years ago. I guess I’m either getting old, or growing up.