I’d forgotten that one.
“Tire tracks all across your back. Heh heh. I can see you had your fun.”
Why, thank you.
The only song I know of that can be called misogynistic is “Trust Me”, by BNL:
I want you, you want me,
I want you not to want me.
I need you to need me
to leave me needing you to leave.
Hardly anything next to Hey Joe by Hendrix, though.
Doesn’t anyone listen to Flipper?
They start out with “Life is pretty cheap, it’s so easy to find” and goes downhill from there.
Easily the most misogynistic song that I’ve ever run into is sung by a woman.
“Lovefool” by the Cardigans.
Any song that can get millions of 14 year old girls singing about how they’ll do ANYTHING if only he’ll stay is terrifying.
I’m betting that one song did more to damage the cause of women than any dopey adolescent fantasy by some hair-sprayed metalhead.
shudders and shivers
First off, that’s not misogyny, it’s a song about a groupie (a class of women that objectify themselves).
Second, if you’re gonna talk Motley Crue, let’s talk “You’re all I need”, with such gems as:
Although to be honest, that’s not really misogyny either, more like violent psychosis.
There are two that I heard growing up that I never even realized was about abuse until after I knew women who had been abused.
Boom, Boom (Out Go The Lights) Who does that one?
Stranglehold by Ted Nugent
"If you house gets in my way baby
You know I’ll burn it down…
Got you in a stranglehold now baby
GONNA CRUSH YOUR FACE"
I’d say it’s a toss-up between “Sex Farm Woman” and “Big Bottom,” both by Spinal Tap.
I would say Nine inch nails: big man with a gun, but reading the lyrics, it doesn’t really ever say a the person on the receving end of this heinious shit is actually female. Hmmm.
i am a big man
(yes i am)
and i’ve got a big gun
got me a big old dick and i
i like to have fun
held against your forehead
well, i’ll make you suck it
maybe i’ll put a hole in your head
you know, just for the fuck of it
well, i can reduce you if i want
i can devour
i’m hard as fucking steel, i’ve got the power
i’m every inch a man, and i’ll show you somehow
me and my fucking gun
nothing can stop me now
Without checking, I’m 99% sure that Hey Joe is an old blues song, and Jimi Hendrix just covered it.
I don’t know if this is really misogynistic. Although not one of my favourite BNL songs by any stretch, I’ve always thought it to be just passing comment on our insecurities and how we feed them by being loved and needed. ie How we want to be loved/needed more than we want a real relationship.
I’m no fan of Nine Inch Nails, but I’m betting that song isn’t meant to be taken at face value. Most commercially successful rap is horribly misogynistic; I can only understand 10% of the lyrics and I’m still routinely repulsed. If you actually look the lyrics up, you’ll wonder how stuff like that can even be released, let alone become popular.
wow. not only have the majority of posters completely misunderstood “MISOGYNY”, they also can’t interpret songs for shit.
I’m rather ignorant and clique-y about my music, so the only stuff I’m really qualified to discuss are the two Nine Inch Nails songs.
First, closer??!?! The hell, people! Just because the man sings “I want to fuck you like an animal” does not mean that he holds a special place in his colon for women. If anything, the song is about how his own life feels utterly worthless, and he sees that reflected in his lover.
as for big man with a gun, that I can understand. but again, only if you have no sense of interpretation. and if you (like so many other posters- hell people, for that matter) can’t tell a song from a person (see most eminem threads for an example). The song is about that weird male instinct to lord power over someone, to dominate them. The penis is a weapon, cocked and ready to shoot, to destroy instead of create (as is its purpose).
remember, Steinbeck was not in favor of shooting the mentally-handicapped by a river. it was just a book.
Here’s another for the so-over-the-top-it’s-parody list:
Girls by the Beastie Boys
Girls-to do the dishes
Girls-to clean up my room
Girls-to do the laundry
Girls-and in the bathroom
I went to a Merle Haggard concert one time, and the guy who opened for him sang a song called “I Never Went To Bed With an Ugly Woman, But I Sure Woke Up With a Few!”
Oh, I just remembered-the guy was R.C. Bannon, and he was married to Louise Mandrell, sister to Barbara.
I don’t know if this qualifies, but it sure struck me that way.
Then there is the song about how the girls all get prettier at closing time, by I dunno who.
I’d say the Tompal Glaser song “Put Another Log on the Fire”, except that it was clearly tongue in cheek.
mi·sog·y·ny: someone, usually a man, who hates women or believes that men are much better than women
In as for big man with a gun
http://www.rexer.com/nin/bmwag.html
The lines:
maybe i’ll put a hole in your head
you know, just for the fuck of it
well, i can reduce you if i want i can devour
i’m hard as fucking steel, i’ve got the power
Seem to indicate that this is not a metaphorical “gun” and he isn’t just out to get a little head, but is a fantasy description of a violent sexual assault.
“Closer” on the otherhand seem to just about nasty sex.
http://www.rexer.com/nin/closer.html
I’m sure Trent was real sweetheart before god turned his back while someone ripped out his f’ing soul.
He must be getting therapy though, cause halo 14 was weak. Too mushy not enough f’ing rage.
a thousand ways to make it true
i want to do terrible things to you
FWIW,
Hey Joe 1966, by someone named Billy Roberts of The Leaves. I thought it was by Moby Grape for some reason.
**“Man I was mean, but I’m changing my scene, and I’m doing the best that I can.” **
So, I don’t think that verse from “Getting Better” actually counts.
But I agree “Run For Your Life” was pretty disturbing. I think Lennon had issues with women in general. Another example, “You Can’t do That.” A few more of his songs are very possessive as well.
“Hit Me Baby One More Time” by Britney Spears.
Hm. I thought it was parody. Heck, the title implies it.
As for misogyny, anyone ever heard of 2 Live Crew?
And other Shakespearean allegories.
I have to say almost anything by Eminem. He is such an absolute asshole, but that is one of his best traits. The best examples are probably '97 Bonnie and Clyde, from his first cd, in which he and his daughter go to the beach and dispose of his wife’s body. Also, as someone else said, Kim, from the Marshall Mathers LP, is kind of the prequel to '97 Bonnie and Clyde. He finds out that his wife has been cheating on him, trashes the house, takes her out in the middle of nowhere and kills her. Charming guy, isn’t he?